Concealed carry for a cook

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Wrothgar

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So after spending several years getting a Master's degree and then working for the government and hating it the whole time, I finally followed my dreams and went to culinary school. AND, I have a job starting Tuesday. I recently moved to a new state (Colorado from Texas). So, I must take a new CHL course (I was licensed in Texas.)

So, the carry method. I have crossbread supertucks for both a Sig 238 and a S&W J-frame. That's not going to work when I'm working as chef pants don't have a belt, just a draw string. I thought about pocket carry, but the J-Frame (I've got a 442) might be a little bit too heavy without a belt. I'm also slightly concerned about a belly band as, well, that's right about the same level as the flames I'll be cooking over. I can pocket carry the 238, but I don't know if that will cut it during winter time around here, which wasn't an issue in Texas (what winter?)

Thoughts? I've thought about a shoulder holster, but it might be slightly tough to get to in a chef's coat. Also, ankle holster? The pants are certainly baggy enough to conceal it. Thanks for any input!
 
I have a neck holster for my P32, its custom formed kydex and goes on a large ball chain. It sits horizontal on a slight angle. Some people don't like them some do. I'll be wearing mine today. You probably can get one for your 238.
 
The first thing you need to do is check local laws and your employer's policies regarding carrying a firearm where you work. I would never advocate illegal activity (in some states, a business's prohibition of firearms in their establishment carries force of law) and even if not illegal, you would have to consider the possibility of losing your job should you violate your employer's policy and get caught. With that said, it sounds to me as though pocket or ankle carry would probably be the most practical methods given the circumstances you describe. Ankle carry would, in this particular circumstance, allow you to carry a larger and heavier gun but pocket carry would most likely offer a significantly faster and easier draw. Really, it's a choice that only you can make.
 
Pretty much . The entire bottom isn't open necessetating the minor upward angle of the barrel for draw. I got mine at a gun show from shark-tac but most kydex guys should be able to make one
 
J Frame in an ankle holster or one of those holster shirts. Personally I carry a 442 in some kind of Galco ankle holster and it's not too bad as far as comfort goes. I rarely carry that way but when I do I'm on my feet all day and I do forget I'm wearing it. Not the best way to carry but maybe your best way. Also you might buy a small, clip on holster and try that. I can carry my 442 in a High Noon Mr Softy while wearing gym shorts. You wouldn't want to have to jump or run but with the drawstring it works ok.
 
I would reconsider the belly band. If the flames aren't going to cook you, they won't cook your gun. Also you could ware it low slung...

Tony
 
NAA Mini mag with folding grip....It is not the only gun I carry, but it is the only gun I carry ALL the time. Drop it in your pocket. Carry a second (bigger) pistol when you can. A 22 magnum is nothing to sneeze at.
 
Thats funny, I'm a sous-chef here in AK....Those chef pants would never support the lightest of guns..... I like an ankle holster for my 360 j frame..
 
Make a specialized Apron. One that holds a small revolver ( or somthing small) like a 442 and an extra speed loader on the inside of the Apron. That way you could just reach inside a grab it in the pocket made and use it in dire need.
 
Forget about the gun, just keep some scalding hot water going and know where all the knives are.
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Exactly

Unless you're cooking at some soup kitchen in the wrong part of town at 2AM, are you really that worried about a crazy gun ma wanting to shoot the chef?

Is your cooking that bad?.........:D Just kidding
 
Just saw this one mentioned on another forum, it's the FusionPac made by tactipac.com. It doesn't utilize a pant belt, it has its own belt which would be good for your beltless pant. The link on the website for the FusionPac doesn't work but here's a link to a youtube video of the FusionPac. I have one on order so have no personal experience with one yet.
 
Forget about the gun, just keep some scalding hot water going and know where all the knives are.
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Don't touch my junk, don't touch my knives. :D

Ankle holster sounds fine, but I really like TylerD45ACP idea of a custom apron.
 
Thanks egor20, I think the custom apron would allow for the fastest access as a cook. Instead of an ankle holster. You could put some effort into one and make it really nice and concealable.
 
Well, I'm not just cooking in a restaurant. I'm in a bistro in a specialty market downtown, and its an open kitchen. I'm not afraid of someone shooting up the kitchen, but a nutjob just walking into the store is as much a possibility as walking in anywhere else.
 
Well, I'm not just cooking in a restaurant. I'm in a bistro in a specialty market downtown, and its an open kitchen. I'm not afraid of someone shooting up the kitchen, but a nutjob just walking into the store is as much a possibility as walking in anywhere else.
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And the owner's policy about guns is?

You have greater chances being hit by lightning or a bus

You are not there to save the world or anyone but yourself - if, by some long odds, a nutob walk in, then you either seek cover in the kitchen or head out the back door
 
You have greater chances being hit by lightning or a bus
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All those people at Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Tx. probably thought the same thing. Twenty-three dead and twenty wounded because nobody could shoot back.
 
A couple of points.....

You are not there to save the world or anyone but yourself - if, by some long odds, a nutob walk in, then you either seek cover in the kitchen or head out the back door
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1-It's not about the likelyhood of the risk, it's about the stakes..... if you have it and never need it, then no big deal. If, on the other hand, you don't have it and need it, well then, I hope youare ready to meet your Maker, provided for your children and made your wishes known as to funeral arrangements.

2- I know a couple of chefs ...... and the risk of someone coming into their kitchens is probably slim. On the other hand, though, leaving work in those wonderfull parts of downtown at OhMyGawdIt'sTomorrow!!!!! is, well, intersting..... right after all the bars in the entertainment district close.....

3- One of those Vertical Neck Chain holsters looks about as smart as a circular full-auto Saiga 12 firing squad: the gun is pointing at the wearer's head :eek: all the time, and there does not seem to be a whole lot other than friction keeping the gun from falling out of the open bottom(top?) of the rig ..... not for me!
 
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