Concealed carry dilemma

Lots of very good compact 9mm's should fit your needs. Seems where you chose to carry and with what holster are the real trick. Plus given your stated work risk exposure having an extra mag might be nice.
 
I'm a LEO, 6'4" with big mitts, and occasionally I need to carry in plain clothes where I absolutely don't print when I do u/c. I carry a little baby SIG p290. Not ideal, but I can make it disappear and hit the vitals of a b27 target at 25 yards. Not every 5th round, but almost every round.

Sure I prefer duty sized firearms. Give me a SIG p220, or a cz 75 or p series, or a Glock 19... But you have to use the equipment suited for the function, even if its a compromise. In your case I would opt for pocket carry of a mouse gun and more firepower in the truck if that's feasible. But that's just me.

FWIW, I'm usually dudly do right (being a cop and all), but I understand staying alive is worth more than any amount of money. Just have other gigs on the back burner in case your caught.
 
Have you considered an ankle holster?

If you happen to be sitting in a vehicle when you have to draw your weapon, then IWB or pocket carry might be a problem.
 
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What JohnKSDA said. A subcompact is a compromise. It's not what you want to shoot Bullseye with, there is a reason they're called bellyguns. Mine is usually a 642 revolver, max for me with it is about 25 yards, that won't be in the zero down are for all 5 shots. 642 in a pocket or IWB holster. They are also not for quick draw.
Another compromise. I can't get it out of a pocket in the car, keep one in the console tho.
 
If a customer or employee catches me, not only am I terminated, but we will lose a hundred thousand dollar a year contract as well. You bet a customer will call his bank and let them know the repossession agent had a gun on him.
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So, you're willing to throw away not only your own job, but the jobs of others when the company loses a six-figure contract?

Just the kind of guy I want working with or for me.
 
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I work in repossessions, and my company policy is for us to wear polo shirts tucked. The no weapon policy is contract mandated by big banks. If a customer or employee catches me, not only am I terminated, ...

The last time I was shot at...
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It would seem the company and the banks are more concerned about protecting themselves from any liability than they are about the employee being able to protect himself from assault, or worse. I would ignore the "dress code"...;)
 
Just keep it in your car.

Carry a small can of pepper spray, if you feel that you have to have it




I would have a hard time explaining to my family why I lost income
 
I had a Glock 43, and hated it; My hands are too large to get a decent trigger press without contacting my support hand in the process.
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I am having a hard time going from that statement to consideration of a pocket pistol. I can't think of a pocket pistol that will solve that problem.

If you want a pocket pistol, the Sig P238 (.380 ACP) and P928 (9 mm in a somewhat larger package) might be worth looking at. They are quite accurate, and come with night sights (you alluded to wanting something you could shoot in dim light). I have the P238 and have found it to be very reliable and easy to shoot.

Keeping a more sizable pistol in your vehicle might be a good alternative given your company's policies, and it would enable you to pick a pistol that fit your hand better, at the price of speed of access, of course.
 
Gotta love people and their high horses...

Personally, if I were in the OP's situation, I'd carry a LCP, P3AT, P32, or NAA and DRIVE or RUN in the other direction if a pissed off deadbeat pops out of their house. It ain't the employee's fight in those situations. Call the cops and let 'em handle it. Shooting back should be an ultimate last resort not the first.
 
I have found the Ruger LCR in .357 magnum to be pocketable and shootable, much more so than the light .38 version. The .357 weighs 17 ounces empty, about the upper limit for pocket carry in my experience. Shoot .38s all day out of it. I only took a couple of shots with .357s just to see what it felt like, but the LCR will shoot all .38 defense loads I have found, with excellent comfort and accuracy beyond 7 yards pretty easily.
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I'll be the third guy to suggest an LCR. However, I disagree with the above poster. I think the LCR 38 was pretty revolutionary. It's both light and comfortable. The two-finger stock grips are the most comfortable I've experienced. The stock trigger is great, and better than a S&W in my opinion. I find it easy to control and fun to shoot.

The LCR 357 is just a little bigger and a little heavier. That might help it handle .38s a little more nicely but as I said, the LCR 38 is already nice. The problem for me is that the breakthroughs don't stand out as well with full-power .357 magnum. It feels just as obnoxious to me in the LCR as it does in any pocketable snub. If I'm using .38 special anyway, I'll choose the LCR 38 hands down.

The LCR 327 might be a look. It uses the heavier 357 frame but gives you six shots. On that frame, the lighter 85-grain Hydra-Shoks have felt recoil like mid-weight .38 +p does from the LCR 38.

Of course, this is all dependent on how well it and a pocket holster wear in your particular pants.
 
If there is a policy in place that plainly states that you can't carry a gun while at work then the best you can do is to leave your gun locked in your car.
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But read your company's policy carefully. My company's policy also prohibits having a firearm in the vehicle if that vehicle is parked on company premises, and that includes property it leases.

Having gone on public record stating an intent to knowingly ignore company policy, I can't imagine how that could improve your position in the case of an incident, either, but that's of course just a non-lawyer's opinion an may be of no interest to anyone.
 
I've always felt that all Repo Men and wrecker operators
in general needed to have at least one gun one 'em.
For that matter, so does every Trucker in the USA...
that ain't a felon ;)

What you really need is a nice set of armour.
A ballistic door panel and a vest at the least.
I'd probably put a 1/2" steel plate over the back
window and use a camera for rear-view instead.
All well within Company Standards and safety for you.
 
That line of work I'd only agree to if I could open carry, and you really should have a backup person with an AR to help discourage attacks.
 
Someone mentioned an ankle holster, I think that's a great idea. As well as a SIG P238 or P938, both are guns that are very accurate and have good sights for being subcompact single-stack guns.

I'm a fan of small revolvers as well, but that doesn't seem to be the OP's thing.

On top of a well concealed handgun, I think pepper spray would be a very good thing for the OP to carry. I assume there's no rule against that, and it could save your job.
 
I work in repossessions, and my company policy is for us to wear polo shirts tucked. The no weapon policy is contract mandated by big banks. If a customer or employee catches me, not only am I terminated, but we will lose a hundred thousand dollar a year contract as well. You bet a customer will call his bank and let them know the repossession agent had a gun on him.
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I've thought about this thread for a while, and the above is what sticks with me. This isn't just a matter of you potentially getting terminated by your employer. You could also potentially ruin the company you work for. While I understand the folks here that have sounded off that the company doesn't seem to value the lives of its employees, as the OP states that no weapon policy is a result of the contracts. My guess is even if the company wanted to let its employees carry, doing so would jeopardize the existence of the company. The people would be able to carry, but they'd potentially be unemployed. How much good does that do for the employees at that point?

I'll also add that beyond losing your job you may well face a lawsuit from the company. If the company were to lose a contract as a result of your actions they could no doubt point to the policy, point to your knowledge of why that policy exists, and claim that you made a deliberate decision that cost the company money and they then decide to seek damages for that loss. It's certainly not so frivolous that it wouldn't cost you some court fees to fight it, which you'll be paying while unemployed. If the companies you apply to decide to reach out to your places of past employment they'll no doubt get an earful, and leaving that company off your resume no doubt costs you some job experience.

There are a number of asinine laws as well as company policies out there, and while we should certainly work to change them we also have to leave in the current reality. In this case that reality is this policy. You've received some great advice on discreet carry methods and you may well find a method that allows you to carry for years without being detected. But were I you I'd be making all the effort in the meantime to perhaps find a different line of work. I know that's easier said than done, but I think you're in a bad situation and rather than trying to make it work maybe getting out is the best option.
 
We are skirting a fundamental issue here. Is your life more important than laws, policies, or other potential consequences? Thankfully, situations in which we need to defend our lives are relatively rare. Yes, repossession is an inherently more dangerous field and yes, the policy is probably based on company financials in the present political and social environment as opposed to your individual well-being. Still, you are just in a different seat on the same boat. That is, you carry a gun for the same reason that people have a fire extinguisher or other safety devices. If your life is placed into mortal danger of a particular type, your gun may get you out of that danger. It comes down to whether you'd accept the preservation of life and limb PLUS those unfair consequences should you ever be unfortunate enough to end up in such a situation. You might have them spelled out a little more explicitly in your case but the sad fact is that almost anyone anywhere in the country could end up facing all sorts of horrific challenges after the fact should they be forced to defend themselves with deadly force.

That said, the "correct" answer is probably to seek employment with a better company or to seek a new profession. It probably wouldn't hurt to kindly and courteously pass on your concerns about the policy along with thanks for the employment opportunity on your way out. It's possible that management on the appropriate level hasn't even considered things from our perspective. However fast our numbers are growing, we are still a minority in this country and public institutions continue to preach against us. We all have to be ambassadors not only of the right but the reasons for it.
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