Colt Signature Series Parts
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Aguila Blanca
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Okay, then I am confused. Is this company also owned by New Colt Holding Company, and are their pistols considered to be "Colts," or is this some kind of coattail company trying to cash in on Colt's name and reputation? Is this company the source of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation BP colts being discussed in this thread? I thought those were sold by/through Colt in West hartford.mykeal said:
Colt bought the parts from Uberti for the second gens. Colt assembled them and did the final fit and finish. Colt warranted them and will letter them. Those are considered to be Colt's. The third gens were made under license from Colt but Colt never touched them. Colt didn't warranty them and won't work on them and won't letter them. Those are not considered Colt's except for a few that say they are Colt's because they have the Colt name on them and the rampant colt. Colt merely sold the rights to the name and logo.
Aguila Blanca seems confused about the corporate names, so with apologies to Hawg, I'll insert them in his description in an attempt to clarify:
Colt's Manufacturing bought the parts from Uberti for the second gens. Colt's Manufacturing assembled them and did the final fit and finish. Colt's Manufacturing warranted them and will letter them. Those are considered to be Colt's. The third gens were made by Colt Blackpowder, Inc. using Uberti parts under license from Colt's Manufacturing but Colt's Manufacturing never touched them. Colt's Manufacturing didn't warranty them and won't work on them and won't letter them. Those are not considered Colt's except for a few that say they are Colt's because they have the Colt name on them and the rampant colt. Colt's Manufacturing merely sold the rights to the name and logo.
Colt's Manufacturing Company produced the 1st and 2nd Generation black powder revolvers, as Hawg described. Colt Blackpowder, Inc. produced the 3rd Generation black powder revolvers, as Hawg described. Colt Blackpowder, Inc. was not and is not affiliated with New Colt Holding Co. in any way; it was a separate corporate entity which worked under license to Colt's Manufacturing. New Colt Holding Company did not exist when Colt Blackpowder, Inc. was in operation.
Colt's Manufacturing bought the parts from Uberti for the second gens. Colt's Manufacturing assembled them and did the final fit and finish. Colt's Manufacturing warranted them and will letter them. Those are considered to be Colt's. The third gens were made by Colt Blackpowder, Inc. using Uberti parts under license from Colt's Manufacturing but Colt's Manufacturing never touched them. Colt's Manufacturing didn't warranty them and won't work on them and won't letter them. Those are not considered Colt's except for a few that say they are Colt's because they have the Colt name on them and the rampant colt. Colt's Manufacturing merely sold the rights to the name and logo.
Colt's Manufacturing Company produced the 1st and 2nd Generation black powder revolvers, as Hawg described. Colt Blackpowder, Inc. produced the 3rd Generation black powder revolvers, as Hawg described. Colt Blackpowder, Inc. was not and is not affiliated with New Colt Holding Co. in any way; it was a separate corporate entity which worked under license to Colt's Manufacturing. New Colt Holding Company did not exist when Colt Blackpowder, Inc. was in operation.
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Aguila Blanca
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Thank you both.
That tells me if I ever want a replica Colt B-P pistol I need a 1st or 2nd Generation. Good to know.
That tells me if I ever want a replica Colt B-P pistol I need a 1st or 2nd Generation. Good to know.
Fingers McGee
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What Mykeal said +1. There needs to be a sticky about this at the top of every BP forum.
Well, you are right but I do think the 3rds are worth more in this market. Too the fact of what I have been able to sell them for. I talked w/ a retired gentleman that worked for Colt BP Arms and he said that Colt reps inspected them since the name COLT was on them before they were sold. True or not--that is what he said. WBH
I do have a special gun of the 3rds that impressed me so much that I had to buy a new 3rd display box and 3rd sig accessories to go w/it. It is -1849 32 c pocket w/ much more silver plating (NIB UNFIRED) than I have seen on others. I bought it from an estate w/ white shipping box / uncracked gray box and manual. If interested contact me at bhardy360@aol.com. I like it
WBH
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But it is a pretty gun!!!bprevolver
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2nd & 3rd Generation Colts
I believe the answers to all these speculations about 2nd & 3rd Generation percussion Colt revolvers can be found in Dennis Russell's book, Percussion Colt Revolvers, The Second Generation Collector's Handbook & Price Guide. The new 6th addition is now available directly from Dennis Russell. It is greatly expanded from 112 pages to 179 pages. By the way, most of Dennis Adler's material was obtained from Dennis Russell. I believe in giving credit where credit is due.
I believe the answers to all these speculations about 2nd & 3rd Generation percussion Colt revolvers can be found in Dennis Russell's book, Percussion Colt Revolvers, The Second Generation Collector's Handbook & Price Guide. The new 6th addition is now available directly from Dennis Russell. It is greatly expanded from 112 pages to 179 pages. By the way, most of Dennis Adler's material was obtained from Dennis Russell. I believe in giving credit where credit is due.
