College students in Georgia want to be able to carry on campus

Many of those who are old enough don't have the money for a gun and/or license anyway. Bottom line, very very few people would actually be carrying on campus. I don't see much reason to have a ban on it but don't feel strongly one way or the other.
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But to have a ban on something because you (lawmakers) dont think people can afford it is silly. That is like banning private ownership of private planes because the majority of people can't afford it. So the people who can afford it and want flex their right (whether buying a plane or ccw) should not be limited to other people's finances.

I understand you are indifferent either way but I wanted to point out the earlier part of that statement. It's not an attack on you, promise
 
But to have a ban on something because you (lawmakers) dont think people can afford it is silly. That is like banning private ownership of private planes because the majority of people can't afford it. So the people who can afford it and want flex their right (whether buying a plane or ccw) should not be limited to other people's finances.
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Never said it was a reason to ban it. It's just a statement of the probable effect of removing the ban.
 
Regardless of what individuals may think about carrying on a campus, I live in the ATL metro and I don't blame the students who attend GA Tech. It is very dangerous and we are always hearing about crime against students in the area and on that campus.
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When I attended in the mid 70's, Techwood homes (a section 8 enclave) had the highest murder rates around, yet we walked through it at night to go to Hawk's games at the Omni - we always were in a LARGE group though.

Underground Atlanta, at that time was even scarier

The issue I see with college carry is the out of control frat parties that often times result in fights fueled by alcohol. I remember a few happening - if guns had been present, it would have been an ugly scene. If there is a way to balance that out, then go for it
 
To Don and Raimius.

I am not saying I am against our given rights and would be very pleased to be able to cc on campus. There is a difference on a college campus between responsible adults and college "kids." I would feel less safe to know that student could have firearms in their dorm rooms or on campus. I cant tell you how many times at a house party right off of campus, someone who was drunk thought it funny to pull out there shotgun at the party. Another time where a kid down the hall of my dorm, somehow snuck in a bb gun and was shooting out windows down the hall, who also had a mental breakdown and broke car windows, our dorm bay window and ripped the shower heads out.

I mean seriously many of these people are not adults. Live accross the bathrooms in a dorm now days and see the childish things they do, Paper wads stuck on the ceiling, A live crab in the showers(kind of funny).

Our military makes boys and girls into adults and holds them responsible. You are not held responsible for much of anything in college. I know students who showed up to maybe 10 classes total a semester. Some are responsible but I really couldn't say all of my peers were adults, in fact the guy in the dorm next to me was 17. I truely believe it would be a coinflip. Someone mentioned earlier that the shootings have only taken place on a campus without cc. I dont believe that there are too many that allow cc. I would not fear for my life if people could carry on my campus. I fear for our rights and what the anti-gun people would do if something did happen. Most of our gun owning citizens are very responsible. If you are living at home with your parents, they keep you in check and safe with your firearms, when your on your own you are seeking out safety, information, simply paying your bills. In college, you can skate by, no job, no bills, no parents, all the time in the world to do whatever you want.

I guess in conclusion I was just ranting and appologize. I believe cc would be ok because you would have to be 21, which by then you are more grown up. Firearms in dorms is another matter.

My opinion is more or less irrelivant as I am one person just trying to turn the gears on you old folks. :D I really wouldnt put up a fuss either way, but I thought maybe you could use a perspective on college in the now.
 
I believe being on a college campus should not be a reason in and of itself to deny our Constitutional rights.

However, as to the OP, I do not believe allowing carry at GA Tech would really have much impact on the criminal activity. For a variety of reasons some legal, economic or simply personal choice very few students would actually carry.
 
Merad: You have only taken the Anti's words for why no-one should carry and have selectively put them to use against college students.

So, have there been blood baths in Utah, CO, or OR since college students can carry there. The are colleges in WA that also allow carry by students and staff, and WSU allows staff to carry...heard of any blood baths in those schools???

Those arguments are as foundless with college students as they are with the general population.
 
I do not believe allowing carry at GA Tech would really have much impact on the criminal activity
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It is not about allowing carry to reduce crime. It is about allowing people to defend themselves. I do not believe the point is to reduce crime. That is a possible benefit.

Also, not in reference to the person I quoted but other comments. I'm really tired of the "drunken frat boy" argument. So drunken trailer trash (my roots!) should not be allowed to own guns either?

These are not college "kids". You can graduate high school, get a job, buy a car, and find your own place to live without college. If anything, the whole drunken frat boy image, which does not represent a majority of college students, is partially encouraged by a university system that routinely tells young adults they are not responsible enough to handle standard adult decisions despite attending an "institute of higher learning"

Funny how we expect more maturity out of a high school graduate who doesn't attend college.
 
Personally, when I attended college, I was too busy with coursework, part-time jobs, friends, and family to get into the "drunken frat boy" thing all that much.

Seems a lot of my friends could say the same for their own college time.

These stereotypes antis throw around are retroactively offensive, even now.
 
Mleake: me too. 5 kids, just out of the military, 30+ years old with a full time job...party? you have to be kidding.

Or, our youngest...graduating Magna Cum Laude...wih a part time job...when did she have time to party?
 
Of course drunken frat boy does not represent the typical male college student. Fraternaties are exclusive! The image is fairly accurate, however.
 
Personally, when I attended college, I was too busy with coursework, part-time jobs, friends, and family to get into the "drunken frat boy" thing all that much.

Seems a lot of my friends could say the same for their own college time.

These stereotypes antis throw around are retroactively offensive, even now.
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I am no anti and I resent your implication and inference - and I went to Ga Tech and was a frat member there so I know how those parties tend to go - and there is NO way guns should be allowed by any student living on campus - way too much booze and drugs and partying for folks to act with a clear mind in such a serious situation

Too bad you didn't indulge - you might have learned a few things....:rolleyes:
 
Perhaps... then again in my studies I learned about "projection."

Which is what some of our former drunken frat boys seem to be doing with regard to the rest of the collegiate population.
 
I went to Ga Tech and was a frat member there so I know how those parties tend to go - and there is NO way guns should be allowed by any student living on campus - way too much booze and drugs and partying for folks to act with a clear mind in such a serious situation
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I'm sorry, I may have missed something but it seems to me like you are saying that because the minority of college students (fraternities) indulge in partying and illegal drugs, that the majority of level headed people shouldn't have the right to carry? Are there not parties and illegal drugs outside of college? Maybe fraternities should ban carrying and let the level headed students choose to carry if they wish.
 
Wrong, and if you read my previous post you would have a thorough understanding
SO let's start again at the beginning for you
IF you can easily separate guns from the frat parties, there should not be a problem with guns ion campus

All one has to do is watch "Girls Gone Wild" or any of a variety of college spring break videos to realize that "things" do happen
Not everyone sits alone in a dorm room with their books.

Until you can eliminate the booze and guns together, the answer is no
the potential is way to horrific
 
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We keep coming back to this argument -

Until you can eliminate the booze and guns together, the answer is no
the potential is way to horrific
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There are parties, booze, and drugs in the real world as well. Again, we have to stop treating colleges as some kind of magical place where this happens and nowhere else. We have to stop acting like these are "kids" and start expecting them to be adults.

We also shouldn't penalize an entire campus because of a minority of dunderheads. If that were the case we might as well outlaw guns for general ownership as well.

Any statement you make for why students should not carry could be applied to the populace at large.
 
We also shouldn't penalize an entire campus because of a minority of dunderheads.
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Agreed.

Are there folks in college who live to swill beer and beat their girlfriends up? Yes there are, just as with the general population. Folks who do bad things, with guns or not, should be punished, but that punishment should not apply retroactively to those lacking self-control or a moral compass.

Me? I was just too busy with a double major and a job to engage in all that silliness.
 
Did I really just read an argument that we should ban guns at colleges because of what is seen on "Girls Gone Wild" videos? How does that make ANY sense whatsoever?
 
Did I really just read an argument that we should ban guns at colleges because of what is seen on "Girls Gone Wild" videos? How does that make ANY sense whatsoever?
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Agreed - that's like using episodes of "Cops" as evidence that the general populace shouldn't be allowed to have guns, either.
 
Did I really just read an argument that we should ban guns at colleges because of what is seen on "Girls Gone Wild" videos? How does that make ANY sense whatsoever?
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Chewbacca lives on Endor. You must acquit.
 
Have a it then
I vote no, will ALWAYS vote no,
and will call my elected officials to always vote no

But then I also think you need to pass a common sense test to own a gun and to vote

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BTW, if its only a few dunderheads getting drunk/high and therefore is no worry - then your argument about carrying to prevent some campus sniper is ludicrous and even more asinine as more kids get drunk and stoned on Friday and Saturday nights on campus than grab a gun and become a sniper
 
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