Church carry and spouse

thedaddycat - Concealed means just that. Let them find out you're carrying when someone's life is in danger and the perp comes nose to muzzle with you weapon of choice.
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This^^ exactly.

Our priest is a great guy, and a hunter, but told me no several years.
I spoke with the Deacon when the priest was on vacation, and the Deacon was fine with CCW.

You gotta do what you gotta do!
 
Personally I dont believe God minds where I pray...or if I am carrying a holstered weapon while on bended knee.

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Very common to CC in church in my area. (central NC).
Recently while working at my p/t gig at a local GS, I met a nice gentleman who informed me that he was active in a church about 30 miles away and that the policy there was as a Deacon (servant/leader position) was selected, they were to attend a CC class and routinely carry at services.
 
In Ohio, you have to have permission to carry in a church.

My priest allows it.

We have parishoners that said "I am not afraid to have my kids run around outside unaccompanied, molesters don't do anything on Sunday.":rolleyes:
 
Of all the church shootings I've heard about, there has not been one documented instance of divine intervention or legions of angels storming the place in a SWAT stack.

I supposed you could argue that those who were armed and present that repelled an attack could count as divine intervention. But it was really a matter of free will and choosing correctly.

In Glock We Trust.
 
That's probably why a lot of people just don't go to church. Mind you, I've never read about any church shootings, though I've heard about a few bombings and unexplained fires.
 
There sure seems to be an interest in going to church armed. The subject pops up regularly.

I wonder if the various OPs and respondents are just asking permission. Positive feed back to reinforce what may be a questionable religio/ethical position.
I wonder if the same people that ask the question here where they will certainly get a positive response, also ask the question on forums dedicated to their specific sects.

Certain religions are very authoritarian. In those people who don't follow church doctrine are condemned. If your religious organization forbids carrying firearms during services, would you still carry?
 
If your religious organization forbids carrying firearms during services, would you still carry?
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Sheesh, my off topic meter and rant detector both just started quivering ... said simply, any one gets carried away with this one (thread veer into religion or away from firearms), the curtain comes down on this discussion.
 
Not an issue for me, my pastor supports concealed carry among his congregation and even owns his own AR's. Not a problem at all for us up in Idaho, one of the last places of freedom in this nation.
 
There sure seems to be an interest in going to church armed. The subject pops up regularly.

I wonder if the various OPs and respondents are just asking permission. Positive feed back to reinforce what may be a questionable religio/ethical position.
I wonder if the same people that ask the question here where they will certainly get a positive response, also ask the question on forums dedicated to their specific sects.

Certain religions are very authoritarian. In those people who don't follow church doctrine are condemned. If your religious organization forbids carrying firearms during services, would you still carry?
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I don't ask permission from my wife on where I should carry. That decision rest entirely on me. My question was not intended on starting a argument or to ask if it is ok with the religious world. Also was not intended on asking if it was ok in other states ( even though I can legally carry in a church here without permission from a pastor or heads of church ). My question was simple and I guess it was too simple. All I asked was do you and your spouse have difference of opinion about carrying in a church. Simple as that nothing more.And thank you Bud for picking up on that.
 
All I asked was do you and your spouse have difference of opinion about carrying in a church.
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Well you did go on to explain the differences you and your wife have.

While I think there is nothing wrong with having my weapon concealed on me during service my wife thinks it is wrong. She seems to think it is ok to protect yourself while at home or anywhere else other than Church.
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The door was opened, so it's not thread drift. Well that is unless the various pastors mentioned who allow or encourage carry in churches are also off topic.

My own choice is not to carry any place where the property owners don't want me to. Others can carry anywhere it is legal to do so, they have that choice.
To me it is unimportant as to who or what owns that property.

There have been many threads in which posters have said they have or would ignore "no gun" signs on business'. In fact that is a clear majority position. If it doesn't have the force of law they have chosen to ignore those signs.
Fine and dandy with me.

So when it comes to churches, why even ask? Or did you really just start a thread in which we're supposed to take sides between your wife and yourself?
 
So when it comes to churches, why even ask? Or did you really just start a thread in which we're supposed to take sides between your wife and yourself?
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Like I posted I do not ask permission from my wife to carry or to where I can carry. I just offered an example of ( even though it is true ) of why a spouse might not agree with this. I am not looking for a public forum to validate why I think I should or should not do something. I did not ask anyone to validate her position either. Not once did I say am I right or is she right? Again it was a simple question and if people are reading too much into it I am sorry. But again the question remains the same. Do you and your spouse or significant other have a difference of opinion when it comes to church carry ?
 
We do but it's not an argument. She feels it is unnecessary, and I comprehend the need. Eons ago (sic), I knew she didn't like me carrying, so once I think, hmm don't make her mad and leave the gun for once. Ok. Later, we got to a spot that it would have been comforting to have a gun. Suddenly she turns to me and say but you do have your gun, right?

Uh-oh. A moment of epic fail. Even though the Wife pretty much gets her way and runs things, in a moment of uncertainty she quickly handed the control reins to me (with an implied security detail) and I had no good excuse to be unprepared and unable to complete the task to its worst possible scenario.:o

We didn't need a gun that day but I learned a good lesson. Men have some habits that can be annoying to women, but they still expect you to be able to handle it and do any of the man stuff that she typically does not at a moments notice. Security is a prime example. Women being in control is an illusion that I enjoy feeding for her, but I have not been ill prepared for her since. I couldn't protect you because you wouldn't let me carry my gun Honey? Really? Hmm.
 
Edward you summed things up quit nicely.

The harsh reality in many cases when it comes to security is:

"Wake up honey, I just heard a noise downstairs"... or, think of your own scenario out on the street.

Bottom line is, if my job is to provide the 'security', please do not try and tell me how to do it or try and pick and choose when you feel we may need a gun for SD. That specific unfortunate time when you feel we may not need one may be the time we do and you'll still look to me to provide the security.

Toting a CCW is a king size PITB. One I would gladly turn over to my spouse if she chose to be the one providing sole security for her and I. There are times, depending on where we are going, she is the only one ccw'ing. Fortunately, many times, we both may be carrying.

I think we need to understand that in the eyes of many people, the church is viewed as a place of worship or Gods house where bad things aren't supposed to happen.
In many BG's eye's, a church full of people is viewed as nothing more then an easy target.

We may want to feel all safe and cozy in a church as we're supposed to be there for good, pure purposes....but we should not let our guard down to the evils lurking outside that could walk through the door at any time. ;)

Short story:

A friend of mine was married to a woman that was very anti-gun. She wouldn't allow guns in the house. They argue'd constantly about the subject. Told him to ask her if someone breaks in the house at night, would she get up to defend the castle or would he be the chosen one. Ball bats or golf clubs don't usually fend to well against an armed assailant or for that matter, a couple unarmed assailants.

In your house,at church or where-ever, it boils down to the person that's going to be responsible for providing the ultimate safety in a life and death situation, has to be the one making the ultimate decision on how to do it.
 
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