Church carry and spouse

I see no reason as to why the church is different from the coffee house or the boardwalk or the mall or the park. Many shootings happen in places of worship.

True. And if you run into an enemy while at church, his hate may well surpass that of most assailants you'd meet elsewhere. All religions have enemies on the outside and, unfortunately, nut cases within.:cool:
 
I choose not to carry in church on my own recognizance. My wife would probably be livid if I wanted to though. I wouldn't mind if my wife wanted to though.
 
We have a local police officer who comes to church in his uniform, armed.

My wife does not know I am carrying when I am in church. She might have an idea that I am, but she has never brought the subject up and I would probably deny it anyway.

She does not believe anyone should carry in church.
 
Being in church doesn't protect you from physical harm and danger. I'm sure we all want to think that we are safe in the house of the lord - after all its considered sanctuary by many - however that is not always the case. Sadly I'm sure that the thought of a church or temple is an easy place to attack is becoming more prevalent among evildoers. I carry when I attend church in case there is an attack in our church.

As for this:

I have a question. Is it a sin to kill someone in self defense? Where does the bible say its ok to kill?

In past versions of the Bible it is stated in the Ten Commandments that thou shalt not commit murder. Only in later versions has it been changed to thou shalt not kill. This I believe is the result of the church bending to society's weakening views on self defense and the defense of one's family and community.

I won't quote scripture since others have already done so quite well - but I doubt that God specifically told us it was a sin to kill - just a sin to murder.
 
Regarding self defense or other lawful killing: The Ten Commandmants were not originally written in English. The original Hebrew translates as "Thou shalt not murder". Murder is always wrong; there are many forms of lawful killing such as in self defense, when a criminal is sentenced to death, when serving in the military, etc. Thinking that somehow you are safer in a church than in other places is probably justified since most folks going to church are there for good, not evil. But is not totally safe.
 
It is a legtimate religious and philosophical position to feel that killing even in self-defense is wrong.

However, that's your choice and you will live with the consequences of that action to you and yours.

That's why current doctrine emphasizes the need to stop an assailant as compared to necessarily killing them. Some legal analyses discuss the high correlation between efficacious methods of stopping and the potential for lethal harm.

If we develop reliable phasers on stun, that might impact civilian RKBA - but I don't have a red shirt or berth on the Enterprise.

However, one might turn the religious location to means of stopping and not necessarily killing - that's your goal. Killing may be a likely side effect.
 
I have no qualms about carrying in church, and do so where permitted. Unfortunately for the Catholic CHL holder, many Catholic churches in these parts are also sites of a K-8 school, so the firearm is a no-no. But if I happen to be attending a parish church without a school, I'll be armed.
 
No, my wife knows I'm going to carry and has never questioned where I do it. Far as that goes, she may have her own with her. ;)
 
I just Googled "church shooting" and got "about 137,000,000 results."

Subtract from that the 6,430,000 results I got Googling "Church shooting, basketball, -gun, -wounded, -killed."

A few years ago there was a murder in a church near me. I think being prepared to defend oneself in church as well as elsewhere is reasonable.
 
I have a couple of cousins that are police officers for the local pd and i asked her one evening when i was on a ride along and she said she does and so does her husband. Obviously NO one should know when you are c/c'ing but if my situation my wife will know obviously when she sees me get dressed. After taking my c/c class the instructor mentioned carrying in church and he said you should talk with your pastor and so i did. Where my pastor didnt come right out and say "no dont ever carry here" he said if you feel it need be then do it. Mind you this was after the shooting in a church a year or so ago where the guy came in right in the middle of sunday sermon and openened fire on the pastor and others. My self yes i have carried to church. I dont that often just for the fact that im a small framed guy and my sr40c isnt that "compact" on my body so im worried people will see it. But when i find the right gun that fits me im sure i will go back to it. IMHO ask the pastor. He is the deciding factor and he might like to know who would protect him. I know mine did when i asked him!
 
church carry

I am very concerned about the safety of my fellow Parishoners when we are in services. I can see the oppurtunity for a huge anti-Christian/American statement to be made by a terrorist at our Church. We have many Military amilies there. I always carry and I know there are others that do as well. Any time I think about not doing it I think about how horrible it would be to look into the eyes of Family and friends as the gunman comes our way with no way to protect them from slaughter. I am very discreet but am realistic to understand that this is not a sane or rational world.
 
I recently became the assistant pastor of a church here in southeastern Oklahoma. While I'm not carrying right now (waiting on my OK permit to come in the mail), and when I lived in MS I couldn't carry because churches are on the forbidden list, I'll be carrying after the card comes. I probably will take it off when I preach, more because of convenience than anything else, but other times I'll have it on me.
 
I am always glad when Preachers either carry or like it when members carry. While I wish it was not an issue at all. But as we who do carry to Church know times are getting worse. And we the Bible believers know it is only going to get worse before Jesus comes back.
 
Concealed means just that. Let them find out you're carrying when someone's life is in danger and the perp comes nose to muzzle with you weapon of choice. Whatever you carry (mine is a J frame Model 36 2" snub .38) just make sure you practice with it plenty enough to know that you can hit a paper plate (roughly the size of a head shot or center mass) at expected range of engagement while in a hurry and under stress.

As the "gunslinger" character in an old comic strip I used to read as a kid said one time, "An ounce of practice is worth a pound of Rest-In-Peace...."
 
Just ended a relationship where the GF believed carry was a sign of a lack of faith. Then again she would pick at anything I did or believed if it didn't jive with her beliefs.
 
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