As a collector of modern handguns, registration fees would cost me in excess of the cost of my most expensive handgun. It may be cheaper to set up residence in another state. I really can wait until my family responsibilities are relieved and I'm able to leave this state permanently.
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel wants state handgun registry!
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Onward Allusion
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It typically costs around $6,000 to $10,000 to move to another State. So that kinda equates to around 100-something handguns. I can definitely see some people moving out of IL for that, especially the older retired folks.
What checkmyswag said, that is completely true. Anything to distract us is what they're selling. The Chicago Sun Times (my preferred paper) reported today that Chicago is rated the most corrupt city in the US (again).
As an interesting aside pertaining to this thread, one time right in front of my apartment these UCs pulled over a car and put two black individuals in bracelets. While they sat on the curb, the officers emptied the contents of the car and put it all on the trunk. Open beer bottles and bags of drugs. After about 15 minutes, they took the bracelets off, waved goodbye, got in the car, and drove off. "I guess you're not the boys we're lookin' fer!" That's pretty much how things fly here.
It may be interesting to note I live in Humboldt Park, a very high crime neighborhood with lots of gangs. Most of this is business as usual here. Poor 57 year old lady was shot in the neck at the Subway a block and a half away for the $52 in the till. She died at the hospital and the Subway has been closed by the owner until further notice.
You guessed it! No suspects.
As an interesting aside pertaining to this thread, one time right in front of my apartment these UCs pulled over a car and put two black individuals in bracelets. While they sat on the curb, the officers emptied the contents of the car and put it all on the trunk. Open beer bottles and bags of drugs. After about 15 minutes, they took the bracelets off, waved goodbye, got in the car, and drove off. "I guess you're not the boys we're lookin' fer!" That's pretty much how things fly here.
It may be interesting to note I live in Humboldt Park, a very high crime neighborhood with lots of gangs. Most of this is business as usual here. Poor 57 year old lady was shot in the neck at the Subway a block and a half away for the $52 in the till. She died at the hospital and the Subway has been closed by the owner until further notice.
You guessed it! No suspects.
Oh, and I forgot a few years ago the 15 year old that was arrested (also in front of my apartment) after shooting up a business a few doors down then running into the business located next door to me. Saw the officer emptying the rather expensive looking 1911 over his trunk, and staring at the gun thinking "where the hell did he get THIS?!?"
I have a theory that Emanual is conversing more with Washington D.C. than he is with people in Illinois in the Democratic party.
His proposals seemed to take some in his own party by surprise:
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/stat...42e-11e1-b26b-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1m28joACq
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Chic...un-registration-law-state-wide-139124114.html
His proposals seemed to take some in his own party by surprise:
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/stat...42e-11e1-b26b-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1m28joACq
http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Chic...un-registration-law-state-wide-139124114.html
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Mayor's proposal is DOA but it will be interesting to see what is the fallout
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-ormsby/will-rahm-emanuels-gun-pl_b_1273586.html
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-ormsby/will-rahm-emanuels-gun-pl_b_1273586.html
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motorhead0922
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The bill was introduced today by Kelly Cassidy.
Today's story:
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/s...-ammunition-tax-bills-filed-in-the-house.aspx
Today's story:
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/s...-ammunition-tax-bills-filed-in-the-house.aspx
Don't listen to rahms polital babble about common sence safety. The bill he proposed is about two things ....
1: taxing law abiding gun owners to further discourage ownership
2: turning law abiding patriotic citizens into criminals for excercizing their rights
This will do nothing to make the streets safer, what criminal is going to register their illeagle handgun?
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1: taxing law abiding gun owners to further discourage ownership
2: turning law abiding patriotic citizens into criminals for excercizing their rights
This will do nothing to make the streets safer, what criminal is going to register their illeagle handgun?
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It very well may end up costing Gov. Quinn his re-election, and he understood that, hence his unsupportive comments concerning it.
It may also cost downstate democrats their re-election bids.
Emanual completely lost the support of the people in his own party that he needed at the state level to get beneficial state laws and initiatives passed for Chicago. He won't be able to get anything passed to help Chicago in any way now.
But more importantly, this may have tipped the scales for the next election, that's really the most important issue.
We were very close to having a super majority veto-proof concealed carry law passed last year.
With a pro-gun governor, we don't need to worry about a super-majority but the loss of a few democratic seats downstate could be all that's needed this next go-around to pass carry legislation in such a way that it over-rides home rule, meaning cities like Chicago and Oak Park would have to allow people to carry.
It may also cost downstate democrats their re-election bids.
Emanual completely lost the support of the people in his own party that he needed at the state level to get beneficial state laws and initiatives passed for Chicago. He won't be able to get anything passed to help Chicago in any way now.
But more importantly, this may have tipped the scales for the next election, that's really the most important issue.
We were very close to having a super majority veto-proof concealed carry law passed last year.
With a pro-gun governor, we don't need to worry about a super-majority but the loss of a few democratic seats downstate could be all that's needed this next go-around to pass carry legislation in such a way that it over-rides home rule, meaning cities like Chicago and Oak Park would have to allow people to carry.
Re: the super-majority - it was my understanding that the super majority was imposed by the leadership of the house (Madigan - father of the anti-gun States Atty of Illinois Lisa Madigan) and possibly by the senate leadership - as it was a law that would effect home rule cities - (ironically state wide bans and taxes on firearms seem to not require such a super majority).
I would like to think that Rahm's rash proposal to tax and register handguns would cost democrats their seats and tip control of the senate and house - but didn't see that happen in the last midterm election - when you had the Dem. Governor removed from office due to criminal charges and replaced by his Lt. Governor - in fact Quin was elected governor - all that despite a nationwide tide that was running against Dem. candidates.
I believe if there are enough votes to pass CC legislation with a super majority then there would theoretically be enough votes to override the governor's veto.
However the vote counts on close legislation are suspect as often once there are enough votes to defeat passage of a bill - representatives whose votes aren't needed are allowed to vote whatever way will allow them to look good for the next election. Therefore not all those who voted for CC may be solid votes for it.
I would like to think that Rahm's rash proposal to tax and register handguns would cost democrats their seats and tip control of the senate and house - but didn't see that happen in the last midterm election - when you had the Dem. Governor removed from office due to criminal charges and replaced by his Lt. Governor - in fact Quin was elected governor - all that despite a nationwide tide that was running against Dem. candidates.
I believe if there are enough votes to pass CC legislation with a super majority then there would theoretically be enough votes to override the governor's veto.
However the vote counts on close legislation are suspect as often once there are enough votes to defeat passage of a bill - representatives whose votes aren't needed are allowed to vote whatever way will allow them to look good for the next election. Therefore not all those who voted for CC may be solid votes for it.
Responses from the rest of Illinois
http://thesouthern.com/news/opinion...a85-11e1-9837-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1mrqEM93i
This is a graphic showing which counties Governor Quinn won. Rahm Emanual's proposal may cost Quinn the three blue counties down South:
http://thesouthern.com/news/opinion...a85-11e1-9837-001871e3ce6c.html#ixzz1mrqEM93i
This is a graphic showing which counties Governor Quinn won. Rahm Emanual's proposal may cost Quinn the three blue counties down South:
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HarrySchell
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The demise of the Canadian long-gun registry, and effectiveness of both the handgun registry (in ieffect since 1934) and it to solve essentially zero crimes sets out the question what Rahmbo's real goals are.
Either he is a liar about why he wants this or he is miserably unable to learn what works on crime and what doesn't. A liar or stupid?
I'll go with the former.
Either he is a liar about why he wants this or he is miserably unable to learn what works on crime and what doesn't. A liar or stupid?
I'll go with the former.
zincwarrior
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Remember in america (HURR!) you get the people you vote for.
Registering handguns is a way to confiscate all handguns at a moments notice should the government feel compelled to do so.
Since criminals don't obey ANY handgun law,it a BS law designed to effect lawful handgun owners only and to charge them for the privelege of having their handguns tracked at all times.
I was wondering why Emanual would leave the White House and how he got gifted the Mayorship as his credentials did'nt wash early in the campaign and now I see and everyone else sees too.
If they can turn Illinois on it's head about firearms ownership,they will feel justified to take the Illinois laws nationwide.
Since criminals don't obey ANY handgun law,it a BS law designed to effect lawful handgun owners only and to charge them for the privelege of having their handguns tracked at all times.
I was wondering why Emanual would leave the White House and how he got gifted the Mayorship as his credentials did'nt wash early in the campaign and now I see and everyone else sees too.
If they can turn Illinois on it's head about firearms ownership,they will feel justified to take the Illinois laws nationwide.
They're not going to turn Illinois on it's head 
Anyone can make any kind of proposal they want to, drafting a bill and getting it read in it's first committe doesn't equate to it being signed into law.
There is also someone drafting a law to abolish the Illinois FOID sysytem... that's not going to go very far either...
Anyone can make any kind of proposal they want to, drafting a bill and getting it read in it's first committe doesn't equate to it being signed into law.
There is also someone drafting a law to abolish the Illinois FOID sysytem... that's not going to go very far either...