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Hi in my employee manual it says that firearms are not permited on the property of my place of employment. Does this include the parking lot? and if so how would I be able to carry to and from work?

Thanks,

Josh
 
Only you can answer that. Read all your company policies. My company explicitly forbids firearms on all company property, including the parking lot. And I don't live in OK or WY or elsewhere that they have state laws allowing firearms in your car in the parking lot.

Would they know? Probably not. But that's a pretty big gamble. Risk vs. Reward. Your call.
 
Hi in my employee manual it says that firearms are not permited on the property of my place of employment.
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You answered your own question, if they own the parking lot then you can not posses a firearm in your vehicle. However, there are a few states that have recently passed laws that allow people to have firearms in their car during work, we need to know what state you are in.

If you are caught you will likely have problems with your employment status.
 
If it says that firearms are not allowed on company property, I would assume that would include the parking lot, however, you should probably check w/ the HR department to clarify that. If your company is small and doesn't have an HR department, talk to whoever hired you to find out.

In a larger company, trying to get that policy changed is probably pointless - they aren't going to listen to the concerns of one individual. However, if the company is on the smaller side, it might be possible to make them listen to your concerns and possibly allow firearms in the locked vehicle. It could be that no one has ever brought up that point before, and they might be willing to take a look at that, if you present you thoughts in a logical and convincing manner.
 
And if thats the case it's kind of rediculus really defeats the purpose of having it because thats where I go EVERY day.
 
I just checked my own company policy today for that same reason. My policy says no guns even in personal cars in the parking lot BUT they do make very limited and specific exceptions. I have my supervisor looking into that now.

Washington is an open carry state and I have a CPL which I think will be a big factor in getting an exemption.

Of course none of this applies to your company (unless you work for the same one I do) so do your due diligence and research company, local and state rules/laws before hanging yourself out to dry.

Coyote WT
 
Company policy for me includes the parking lot. But when deer season (gun) rolls around, and there are half a dozen trucks pulling four wheelers on trailers in the lot, try telling me there are no firearms in those vehicles and then sell me some leprechan gold. ;)
 
In Florida there is a law that clearly states a company cannot forbid its employees from legally keeping a weapon in there vehicles in the parking lot, whether or not the parking lot is company property. Of course there are still companies that try to ban it.

State Law > Company Policy


Check your state laws. Try a site like www.handgunlaw.us
 
I can't carry or leave a gun in my car at work or on their property. I found the easiest way around this was to park off the company lot. I can keep my pistol in my car while I work and don't have to worry about my job.

Doesn't do me much good as far as defending myself at work, but my company will never allow it. I wish they would let us carry, we have to collect checks and carry truck loads of valuable shipments. People have been known to follow us from stop to stop, just to steal packages we deliver. Most of the time they don't know what they're stealing and it's completely worthless to them. But nobody said thieves were brilliant.
 
I agree and just found my manual. heres the exact words from it. (*company name* prohibits all persons from bringing or having a weapon of any kind on company property, including parking areas. where state law differes from this policy, the company will enforce this ban on weapons to the fullest extent permitted by applicable state laws."

So I guess my real question now does michigan allow it in the parking lot? I personally can't find it. If some one else can let me know!
 
This really is a personal question as long as it isn't violating any local/state/federal laws. How important is your job and how important is defending yourself when needed.

I have moved to deeper concealment and practice regularly to be proficient in drawing from layers of cover. Proper firearm/holster combination can do wonders when you don't want other people to know.
 
This is a difficult issue for me. I once worked for major manufacture as the Safety & Security Manager it was my job to enforce this policy. As a firearms owner I wanted to carry in my vehicle, but because of personal integrity felt I could not. I felt bad telling employees they could not have a firearm in their vehicle to defend themselves with while traveling to and from work.

However, on the flip side as a company manager I felt the company had a right to decide what type of activity it would allow on property that it owned. These policies were clear and expressed to employees immediately upon hire.

The best answer to this is legislation allowing permit holders to keep weapons in their vehicles. A Policy like this would free companies up from what they fear most – litigation. This would have made my job easier and helped me feel much less conflicted.
 
I am glad that my work place has no such rules. I carry every day to work. There is a rule against displaying a fire arm so open carry is out as is showing your friends your gun (which is not the smartest idea at work any way).
 
My employer prohibits guns as well. I am not sure about the parking lot, but they don't have any right to search my car so what they don't know wont hurt them. I keep it locked up under the seat when I leave the car. It's completely ridiculous I feel, but they sign my checks so.....
 
My employer has a policy prohibiting deadly weapons, but I can keep my guns locked up in my vehicle as I have a CCDW permit. Upon arriving at work, I discreetly disarm myself and secure my weapon in a locked glove compartment. When my shift ends I simply rearm myself and happily go my merry way. Before I had the permit, carrying everyday was a pain, as I had to open carry all the time. I DID NOT ENJOY THIS.
 
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And if thats the case it's kind of rediculus really defeats the purpose of having it because thats where I go EVERY day.
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I know what you mean. I often leave mine at home because I am afraid where I am going won't allow firearms and it's less hassle to leave it at home and take my chances than be limited where I can go when I'm out.

A few weeks ago, my wife and I went to a professional sporting event near a major city where we live. I left my gun at home because I knew I would not be permitted to take it in with us. When we were walking back to the car, I noticed about 3 young questionable looking youths loitering in an area of the parking lot where we were headed. The lighting was very limited and it was later in the evening. We went the othe directions even though it was out of our way. Not sure what would have happened if we had kept walking the direction we were originally headed. The was no security provided in the parking lot that I could see.

I personally feel that if professional sports teams are going to prohibit bringing firearms into the stadium/venue, then they should at least provide adequate security for their patrons.
 
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My company does not allow guns on the property, but state law prevents them from enforcing that rule if the guns are legally stored in a vehicle in the parking lot. Several other states have that law too (I think Oklahoma was the first) so check your state firearm regs for the answer.
 
For a number of years, I took the chance that my weapon would not be looked upon as "wrong" although technically, the wording of the booklet from HR did not specifically allow me to carry a weapon onto company property.

I was fully prepared to be the test case in Ohio if it came to that, . . . my vehicle is exactly that: MY vehicle, . . . not the company's property, . . . and not subject to company policy any more than the contents of my stomach or my large intestine.

Fortunately, there never was a reason for the subject to become a point of contention, . . . but I'd do it again in a heartbeat, . . . my safety and my family's safety trumps ANY corporate edict.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
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