Carrying into friend/acquaintances' homes

[markj]

Now I just work harder and live better having zero democrat friends to waste my time on. This method can work well for gun owners too. If they don't like guns, don't talk to them.

But what if the democrat loves guns?


I do not pick and choose this way for friends and am also old.

Everyone has something of value IMHO.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

I've been on both sides; it seems to depend on how I "read" the person who invited me over. With some, I've carried and felt slightly uncomfortable, with some perfectly comfortable, with some I've left it locked up in the truck, all night, with some I've left it and been told to bring it in. A friend said, "YOU BROUGHT A GUN INTO MY HOUSE?" when the subject was brought up and the wife told her I carried. I said, "No, I left it in the truck." She told me she was only kidding and I was welcome to bring it in there anytime. Another asked to see my weapon as he was interested in getting one for himself and I had to retrieve it from the truck for that purpose, and was assured it was welcome inside, and leaving it was unecessary. My brother, for another example is married to somebody that would never let him own a gun. I've never carried into their home; it stays in the truck. No amount of explaining or teaching will suffice. She doesn't even seem all that anti, just anti in her house. For example, they will go out with us and she knows I am carrying, she knows it's in the truck with us and doesn't see a problem. They have always had kids and now grandkids, and I believe that's the main problem, though she hasn't been able to fully explain it. My brother's best friend is a pro-gunner though, and I'm hoping it will eventually change with his help. With all this talk about parties, I didn't see alcohol mentioned in the thread, either, but that should change things significantly. If there are going to be people drinking I would hope that none of them are carrying, because in my state, it's illegal, even more so than driving. In other words, when you might know that you've waited long enough to be able to drive legally, you're still not able to carry that gun. If I KNOW I'm going to be drinking at all, I don't carry. If anybody is carrying at a party where there is drinking going on, I hope at least it's the homeowner.

 

[bababooey32]

If you are bringing a deadly weapon onto another's property and into their home, they should be notified in advance and of course have the right to say no.

Pocket knives? Pen's and pencils? I doubt you ask to be notified of these items, yet they can kill you just as quickly and easily as a gun. I assume your kitchen knives het locked up when company arrives?

The problem here is that you and others are requiring that I declare my lawfully concealed firearm when entering your home, and then are hiding behind some idea of "safety" as the reason.

If "safety" were the concern, you would want to know about any potentially deadly weapon, and you'd keep your kitchen knives under lock and key. Since I assume you do neither, your argument is disingenuous.

 

[pax]

By putting your right to carry above the values of a friendship, I would suggest you may need to take a serious look at your priorities.

Don't be silly. In the case of someone who refuses to extend trust to the other, no friendship exists or can exist. The best that can happen is a sort of acquaintanceship, not a friendship.

I won't waste my emotional energy on mere acquaintances; I save it for true friends. If you choose to do otherwise, that's your right and privilege. But don't claim it's the "values of friendship" that cause you to jump through hoops for people who don't trust you.

pax

 

[OldMarksman]

In the case of someone who refuses to extend trust to the other, no friendship exists or can exist. The best that can happen is a sort of acquaintanceship, not a friendship.

I won't waste my emotional energy on mere acquaintances; I save it for true friends. If you choose to do otherwise, that's your right and privilege. But don't claim it's the "values of friendship" that cause you to jump through hoops for people who don't trust you.

Agree. Well put--I'll remember those words---may need to use them.

 

[Phoebe]

This wise man replied "I do not have a democrat friend". Now I just work harder and live better having zero democrat friends to waste my time on. This method can work well for gun owners too. If they don't like guns, don't talk to them.

We are all entitled to make any choices we want, but this one seems kind of silly. I know some pro-gun Democrats with very large gun collections who are very active in the NRA.

As I've pointed out elsewhere, most people are not one issue voters, and some gun rights advocates may have other reasons for not voting Republican.

Yes, you'd probably find more NRA Republicans than NRA Democrats, but it's silly to make such broad assumptions that all Dems are antis just as it would be silly to assume all Republicans are pro.

 

[Glenn E. Meyer]

We don't do the endless, you have to be of one party to be worthy - blah, blah.

So, I opine that all sides of the debate have been clearly defined. We are heading into politics and ideological purity as defining friendship and talking about specific parties.

Nothing else to be said. Thanks for the heated but rational debate.

The show is over.