How so? You believe there is no higher law than rules made by men?
There may be, but as I said basing actions on them is impractical, as each of us may have a different higher law.
Sometimes people can't just change jobs.
But they can be honest, they can follow the rules they agreed to follow, etc.
As to following the rules, I say only if they are moral and just should they be followed.
So, who gets to decide that? What if your employer feels the "no carry" rules are moral? Or what if your employer feels it is moral to change your rate of pay whenver he wants without telling you? What if your fellow employees feel it is unjust to force them to work in the same building as aperson who is carrying a gun?
The employer is not a king and does not have carte blanche to force employees to do whatever they ask.
Actually he pretty much does unless there is some law that is controlling.
You cannot be asked to "waive" your right to self defense without some measure of protection being afforded.
But your employer will argue that there is some measure of protection being provided, and that prohibiting carry at work is part of that protection.
No you are saying follow the rules no matter what and so these examples are legit.
Please show us anywhere I have said you should follow the rules no matter what.
Legality is different from ethics, but honesty is not.
Of course it is. Ethics are principles or standards of human conduct, honesty revolves around principles of truthfullness.
Actually you brought up the race issue
No you did by trying to relate civil rights to this, but as it doesn't matter I'll take the credit if you want.
I think in the cases I mentioned you yourself might not tell the truth or follow the law because there is a greater good in not doing so.
OK, I follow you now. And I don't disagree, sometimes you might not be honest because it serves the greater good to be dishonest. I don't think that changes the fact that one is being dishonest, however.
Must have change UCMJ from back in the 70s.
More importantly, I disagree with your position that one must openly disobey immoral laws ....
Sorry, but that is a postion I have not taken. My position is simple: If you voluntarily agree to behave in a certain manner for purposes of getting something of value, then hiding the fact that you are violating that agreement and taking the full value as agreed on is dishonest.
You can simply choose not to follow the unjust laws as I suggested in the examples on my earlier post and that includes carrying at work against unjust company policy.
Company policy is not law, and yes, you can choose not to follow the policy but if you have agreed to do so it is dishonest. That the policy is unjust is an opinion that many would disagree with and is fairly irrelevent, IMO.
As Glenn has pointed out, this keeps trying to drift towards the issue of morality, which is quite philosophical as well as individual. Honesty should not be based on what you think, but on what you do.