Carrying At Work

Do you legally carry at work even if it's against company policy?

  • I have a gun on me whenever it's legal for me to do so...

    Votes: 91 70.5%

  • I need the pay-check to badly to risk getting caught...

    Votes: 38 29.5%
  • Total voters
    129
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I'm going to say yes but if i'm inside at work then i leave it in the car.but once my butt hits my front seat the holster and come out and the shirt goes over it.
 
I WISH I could carry. I travel for a living and find myself in some not so nice areas. Unfortunately, the TSA doesn't seem to share my concerns. :rolleyes:

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The two answers are too closly related. A better answer would be Do you violate the law in order to remain armed?
Such as carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol when State statute makes this specifically illegal.
 
Depending on state statues, correct posting of no firearms signs may be required in order to be in violation of law. A picture of a gun with a slash across it may not qualify. Carrying may be a terminable offense, but not necessarily criminal.
 
The two answers are too closly related. A better answer would be Do you violate the law in order to remain armed?
Such as carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol when State statute makes this specifically illegal.
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I didn't figure it would be in the Forum's best interest for me to ask how many of it's members break the law on a daily basis. What with the promotion of responsible ownership and all. :cool:

Also let me clarify. My second job that I carry to is NOT a gun free zone. In fact I've seen many armed patrons just in the last week that I've worked there. They do however have a company policy that prohibits it's employees from being armed / defending themselves against attack (their wording). I'm of the opinion that it's an unlawful policy, mainly the not defending yourself against attack.

It's by no means my main source of income, so, if I was forced to quit, that'd be ok. I honestly don't think it'll ever be an issue.

If I can hide a Glock-21SF on my person and have my wife not notice after an entire day out, including random hugs, hip bumps, and all the other PDA's that married couples who still like each other tend to exhibit in public, I think I stand up to the casual observer test.
 
I don't need to carry around work or keep one in the trunk because my next door neighbor is the area where the MPs train their dogs... and I think they would love to let their dogs chew on someone.
 
Of coarse the legality of carrying against company policy varies from state to state, but in NH there are very few restrictions on where I can carry. In my case I’d be violating company policy, but not breaking the law.

I work 3rd shift and for several years worked alone in a cubicle. I used to carry back then. However, the situation has changed and I’m now in a network center working with other people. The risk of being discovers is too great, so the gun stays in the truck.
 
we are not supposed to carry guns on work property. good thing im in sales and out of the office for 7-8 hours a day
 
"Why would you even take the job in the first place if you knew you were not going to follow the rules that the job said for you to follow?"

Because in my line of work, no employer is going to allow that. If you're attacked, you're expected to die to save the company from any sort of embarrassment. Yet, as a father of four, I feel the duty to provide for my children while staying alive to continue to be a father to them.

Not every employee follows company policy to the letter; most don't. Some employees lie about being sick, or take off work early without telling the boss. Others steal office supplies.

I take measures to protect mine and my coworkers' lives despite the conflict with company policy. :eek:
 
Because in my line of work, no employer is going to allow that. If you're attacked, you're expected to die to save the company from any sort of embarrassment. Yet, as a father of four, I feel the duty to provide for my children while staying alive to continue to be a father to them.
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Sorry, but I've always found "I want to make more money" to be a poor excuse for dishonesty.
Not every employee follows company policy to the letter; most don't. Some employees lie about being sick, or take off work early without telling the boss. Others steal office supplies.
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And do you think those actions are OK or dishonest?

Not meaning to be insulting to anybody in particular, but my philosophy has been and is that employment is a deal between company and employee. And the deal is that if you do what the company has told you (generic you, not personal) the company will give you a certain amount of money and benefits. If the shoe was on the other foot, if the company decided they didn't have to live up to their end of the bargain, you would think it wrong and dishonest. "Yes, I know we agreed to pay you $15 an hour for your work, and you've certainly lived up to your end of the arrangement, but we are only going to give you $9 an hour." Most would holler about how dishonest and wrong that was, and many would even sue.
My $.02: We talk a lot about gun folks being honest and law-abiding. We should expect both even when it is inconvenient. Using the old adage of "never go anywhere with a gun you would not be willing to go without a gun", if you feel that your workplace is so dangerous that you need to carry a gun even when it is expressly prohibited, you might want to look for another place to work.
 
Sorry, but I've always found "I want to make more money" to be a poor excuse for dishonesty.
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We here in America have the constitutional right to self defense. Business owners who wish to deprive us of this right are then obligated to pay for our protection. If they refuse us both the right to carry and the protection we are entitled to, then it is not dishonest to break the unconstitutional rule. The only dishonesty is the belief that one has the right to violate the rights of another citizen.

BTW, I have yet to see a company in Corporate America that allows its employees to carry. To say that most could or should find employment which allows carry is a fantasy.
 
I picked "risk getting caught", even though that's not completely accurate.

I (implicitly) agreed to abide by the rules in the employee handbook when I accepted the job. I won't intentionally break those rules even though it would be legal to carry at work.
 
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In Ohio you can't carry at work if the company policy doesn't allow it. That is written into the CCW laws.
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The business still has to post the applicable "no carry" signage. Otherwise the company policy isn't enforceable by law. This from several different police officers from several different departments.

So since I've posted this thread I've talked to most of the officers who come in to my job during the night shift. All of them A) Think that everybody who can carry should carry (made me happy with our local PD's) and B) Agree with my interpretation that while I could be legally fired from the job, there would be no criminal penalties because it's legal for everyone else to carry where I work (I.E. the business isn't posted). So, there you go.
 
I would never carry at work. Just seems pointless, with the Winchester Trapper leaning in the corner and all...
 
Interesting issue - first, I personally believe legislation should be passed that does not allow businesses to ban carry unless there is a technical reason for such (the MRI ban for instance).

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If they refuse us both the right to carry and the protection we are entitled to, then it is not dishonest to break the unconstitutional rule.
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This is a legal question. Does the employer have the right to control some kind of BOR 'right' on the job? Not at home or in your private life but while on the job. An employer certainly could stop you from prostelytizing your religion as you self a whopper to the schmuck on line at Burger King - is that a 1st Amend. issue?

The employer is prohibited from discriminating against you in hiring because of your religion but if you start to spout it to customers, I would think that could be stopped.

The Constitutional provision doesn't apply to behavior on the job. You can paint pictures of naked people. Can you wear a naked person t-shirt on the job - if wearing t-shirts are ok?

I think the term unconstitutional in this case is being applied loosely. However, I would support legislation (under the commerce clause) that would forbid such bans.
 
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