Candidate Obama

Sorry you and I disagree on just about everything but I sir am entitled to my opinion same as you, unless I get booted. You attacked me before because you and I didn't agree. You sent me several pvt. messages trying to get me to stop disagreeing and complained. I disagree with lots of folks here I try not to get personal. But when someone makes it personal to me, or comes off as Superior I take exception, and I shouldn't I know.

My apologies sir.

Part of anyone is their religion or lack there of and when your running for public office I want to know. this is not the place to debate the goods or bads of that sort of thing but Muslim, Hindu Buddhist Atheist Christian etc etc I want to know before I place my vote.
Sorry if I spelled any of those wrong.
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Hey, sparky:

TheBluesMan said:
His religion is not an issue and WILL NOT be a subject of discussion on this site.
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So unless your intent is to troll this thread (not that there's much to it anyway) with the intent of getting it locked, much as I suspect you have tried with other threads, drop it.
 
Reply to the Forum I was at fault for this post and just found out that it was bogus, Please accept my aploigy, and I Removed that post from the Forum.
 
orry you and I disagree on just about everything but I sir am entitled to my opinion same as you, unless I get booted. You attacked me before because you and I didn't agree
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Noone attacked you because they disagree with an opinion. They attacked the fact that all you did was post propaganga and innuendo to try and incite a belief that he is somehow un-American or a threat because he does not fall into your narrow definition of an acceptable religous background. You tried to elicit a negative emotional response from people with accusations and words like "islam:, "muslim","terrorist", "jihad" and then warned people to "remain alert". :rolleyes:
 
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I went ahead and PM'd TheBluesMan
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So seriously, I recommend you just stay the heck out of the Obama thread if you just can't help but discuss the ins and outs of his religion.

Also, the only thing I generally want to know about a candidate's religion is whether they're an Evangelical Christian. I'd rather elect a Muslim, or even a Satanist, over one of those. Go figure.

By the way, in case you aren't picking it up I'm being sarcastic. If they're an Evangelical, I'll judge it by their actions not somebody digging up what church they attend or once attended.
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I didn't realize I was debating his religion, that is his personal businees not mine, all I wanna know is what if any it is.

YOU get your way sir I am finished in this thread, this has gone to far for even me G-day
 
sasquatch said:
Interesting way of looking at things. Do you mean that we should not be commenting on political candidates unless we have held a political office equal to, or higher, than the one they have attained?
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That was actually directed at The BluesMan's comment
His paltry accomplishments and socialistic tendencies are fair game, however
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Look up his acheivements. I don't consider them paltry by any means. I still won't vote for him, but I do respect his accomplishments.

You have every right to free speech so say whatever you please. Do cite some credible sources at least so it doesn't look like you are pulling facts out of...
 
Look up his acheivements. I don;t consider them paltry by any means. I still won't vote for him, but I do respect his accomplishments.
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On the political scale I'd say they're paltry...at least on the "presidential candidate" scale. Though oddly there are other, more "accomplished" candidates that I'd take him over any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 
Noone attacked you because they disagree with an opinion. They attacked the fact that all you did was post propaganga and innuendo to try and incite a belief that he is somehow un-American or a threat because he does not fall into your narrow definition of an acceptable religous background. You tried to elicit a negative emotional response from people with accusations and words like "islam:, "muslim","terrorist", "jihad" and then warned people to "remain alert
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. Please go back and reread what I wrote here I don't think I was posting propaganda and innuendo. the original post maybe not I sir.

I do think you have confused me with someone else.

I wasn't going to say more but that was a serious accusation Playboy and I wanted to straighten it out, If it looked that way.
But then one can become educated beyond their intelligence, and that Playboypengin was not in any way, shape, or form, directed at you sir.

Lack of education does have it's drawbacks.....
 
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Why can't we all just go back to talking about Chuck Norris' greatness?

Chuck Norris is in favor of racial profiling. So long as he does the profiling. And by "racial profiling," I actually meant to say, "a roundhouse kick to everyone."
 
Please go back and reread what I wrote here I don't think I was posting propaganda and innuendo. the original post maybe not I sir.

I do think you have confused me with someone else.
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Yeah, I thought I was reading a post by the original poster. I was flashing through and got my posts confused.

Sorry.

Juan carlos sent me an e-mail about it.
Like playboy said I guess I am the uneducated bubba, beneath his standards I guess, but I do like to be informed and not have things hidden from view PC or not. It is my vote I have only one it is one of many but it is mine if ya catch my drift.
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How are fake reports on the internet worth discussing? And even if they were not fake this OP was purely meant to incite people against Obama by linking him to terrorists. I would only care what a persons religion was if they were planning on making religion a part of the govt and I think that is just as likely (if not more likely) to happen with a christian than with a muslim.

Maybe we should start calling candidates that claim to be christians faith into question and start worrying that they will be bombing abortion clinics if they get elected.
 
JuanCarlos, you are right that he has little in the way of substance, but to answer your question as to WHY, the answer is his *speaking ability*. You said something like "OK" speaker or "pretty good". No, I would beg to differ, that he is an incredible speaker, above outstanding...that's the key - talking in optimistic generalities, with great poise, delivery, charisma. There is your answer. He still has never met a gun ban he didn't like, being part of the whole Illinois/Daley/Blogojevich circle jerk on gun freedoms. His religion IS relevant, but only VERY marginally so, IMO.
 
JuanCarlos, you are right that he has little in the way of substance, but to answer your question as to WHY, the answer is his *speaking ability*. You said something like "OK" speaker or "pretty good". No, I would beg to differ, that he is an incredible speaker, above outstanding...that's the key - talking in optimistic generalities, with great poise, delivery, charisma. There is your answer. He still has never met a gun ban he didn't like, being part of the whole Illinois/Daley/Blogojevich circle jerk on gun freedoms. His religion IS relevant, but only VERY marginally so, IMO
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True. I've seen a couple of his speeches, and you're right he is pretty amazing. I guess I just try to downplay it because there just isn't anything else there (IMO). Some of the excerpts I've read from his book are pretty impressive, too.

And actually, I don't know that this is necessarily a bad thing. If a guy like that surrounds himself with good people (and listens every now and then) I think he could make a halfway decent president.

Actually, if it wasn't for what appears to be an obvious ignorance about guns and intolerance towards them I'd say he's probably one of the better candidates that that end has to offer. Pretty big "if," though.
 
In 2004 National Beer Wholesalers Association PAC endorsed Senator Obama.
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That's all I need to know. ;)

But yes, Vote-Smart is someplace everybody should visit before casting a vote...if only to verify what you think you already know.
 
OK check it out...the guys entire political life is as some type of "elected" official in Cook County (he was lucky enough to draw more of the dead vote) and half a term as a Senator...

And this is who we want leading the free world?

Cheepers, creepers Id rather have Hillary.

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And actually, I don't know that this is necessarily a bad thing. If a guy like that surrounds himself with good people (and listens every now and then) I think he could make a halfway decent president.

Actually, if it wasn't for what appears to be an obvious ignorance about guns and intolerance towards them I'd say he's probably one of the better candidates that that end has to offer. Pretty big "if," though.
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I agree with that....the kid ought to be smart enough to "figure it out" - maybe he will if he wins the primary, start talking more in Howard Dean terms on guns (the states should regulate as they see fit; the fedgov should stay out of it, etc.). If he wins and does change his tune quite a lot on guns, I could possibly even vote for the man. But it would have to be a situation where he didn't make too many strong promises on guns in the primary, and NO definite promises to the gun banners, such that he'd later have to dance with who brung him....

I believe Hillary would be a lot worse, but it's hard to say really. So far the Dem primary race sounds like an Aesop's fable gone horribly awry: "The Lawyer, the Woman, & the Muslim" (I am ONLY KIDDING, gals!) ;) :D
 
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Gonna jump in and then out

All this indignation for questions about someones religion . Remember all the fuss about JFK being a Roman Catholic ? People were afraid he would do whatever the Pope told him . I remember that since I was there . It was a big deal and widely discussed in many circles . As to Obamas school being such a "goody two shoes" institution of education . Nobody seems to have looked at how it was those years ago when HE went there . Does this Christian Church he now attends have any form of Communion ? Does he partake ? And for speaking well . A used car salesman can weave a tale of confidence while selling you a lemon . No matter how well they speak you need to focus on the product NOT the delivery . Thank you for your time . As you were gentlemen .
 
All this indignation for questions about someones religion . Remember all the fuss about JFK being a Roman Catholic ? People were afraid he would do whatever the Pope told him . I remember that since I was there . It was a big deal and widely discussed in many circles .
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And this was...a good thing? *shrug* Wouldn't have supported that, either.
 
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