Can Leftists be Martialists (Self-Defense Exponents)?

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A few days before writing this editorial, I was reading through the non-martial arts portion of a discussion forum I quite like. Scrolling through the political debate areas of the site, I was struck by just how many people participating there seemed to be heavily politically left-wing. Many of the discussions seemed to revolve around the members’ firm belief that when Republicans weren’t kicking puppies or eating babies, they were formulating elaborate plots wherein well-meaning Democrats were led astray by the clever machinations and manipulations of their much savvier, much better-backed rivals, eventually being made to look corrupt and foolish through no faults of their own.

I’m an independent, not a Republican or a Democrat, and philosophically I’m an Objectivist (which is closest to “Libertarian” than anything else). What I am not, however, is a left-winger; my political beliefs are very much in opposition to the defining tenets of political leftism. Before we can explore the nature of self-defense and left-wing politics, we have to understand those defining tenets. For our purposes, a political leftist is any person who believes strongly in some, if not all, of the following concepts:

- “Gun Control,” more accurately termed “firearms prohibition.” The concept may extend to controls on non-firearm weaponry, such as knives and other tools.

- Forced government transfers of wealth from some individuals to other individuals in order to accomplish egalitarian social schemes (also known as welfare programs, “progressive” taxation, and the like).

- The righteousness of lawsuits against “Big Tobacco” and other “Big” concerns, which hold responsible the sellers of a legal product the voluntary use of that product by consumers.

- The belief that “violence begets violence” and the conviction that unilaterally choosing to be peaceful can end violent conflict among individuals (pacifism).

- The belief that American military power and American global supremacy represents a threat to the world and to global peace (the concept of “American imperialism”)

- The belief that one’s fellow citizens’ freedom of action represents a threat rather than an asset – that humans, left to make their own choices, will choose that which is socially undesirable, and therefore the behaviors and the choices of a society’s citizens must be strictly controlled for the good of all. (For example, leftists believe private citizens cannot be trusted to give to charity if left to their own devices -- they must be forced to "do the right thing" at governmental gunpoint.)

This list is not all-inclusive, but those are the primary concepts that define politlcal leftism. Keep in mind that leftism represents an extreme political philosophy that bears only superficial resemblance to political liberalism. The Founding Fathers of the United States were “classical liberals,” for example. Many people in this country who believe strongly in our nation but also care deeply about their fellow citizens (and thus support various social programs) are traditional Democrats, not leftists. No, leftists are the worst sort of political extremists – who believe their ill-conceived notions to be “mainstream” and who carry with them the firm conviction that political conservatives and moderate Democrat and Republican Americans are the slaves of Corporate interests and the scions of evil.

What do the defining characteristics of political leftism have in common? They divorce the individual from responsibility for his actions. They also declare the individual the enemy of the State, of the Community, and proclaim the individual subservient to that State. Leftism is collectivism, which expresses itself in several harmful, negative ways:

Leftism is unpatriotic. Leftists believe their nation, the United States, the most powerful nation in the world, is evil. They despise its Enlightenment ideals of individual liberty in favor of collectivist schemes of social leveling and wealth redistribution. More importantly, leftists oppose American military might on the grounds that it is somehow unfair or dangerous for the U.S.A. to be militarily more powerful than other nations. To wish your nation to be less powerful is both fundamentally unpatriotic and geo-politically self-destructive.

Leftism is contrary to self-defense. Political leftists, because they advocate egalitarianism, view all people as equal. This necessarily carries with it the belief that no person’s life is any more valuable than another’s. Viewed in the context of divorced responsibility for one’s actions, such egalitarianism dictates that there is no moral difference between an attacker and someone who is attacked – and thus to use violence in self-defense is every bit as wrong as using violence to murder or rape someone. Leftists support the disarmament of their fellow citizens because of their hostility to the notion of legitimate self-defense. Leftists do not value the individual’s life; they value conformity to State and Community ideals instead.

Leftism is built on theft and immorality. Leftism is the politics of envy – the belief that it is unfair that not everyone succeeds to the same degree in life. As a result, political leftists advocate stealing (through confiscatory taxation) the earnings of one person in order to give those earnings to someone else who is “less fortunate.” Taxes are not voluntary. If the producer does not agree with paying them but has been outvoted by his peers, he has no choice but to fork over the money for which he has worked. As a result, leftists take what is not theirs in order to generously grant it to others without the consent of those who produce what is taken and redistributed. This is clearly immoral and theft by any definition.

The foundation of self-defense is the natural law of self-possession -- that you own you (for if you do not, who does?) and that you have a right to defend your property. Political leftists, however, would deny the morality of using force in self-defense (an expression of pacifist ideals – the illusory and foolish notion that if we simply refuse to use force, we can “break the cycle of violence”). They would also deny their fellow citizens the means to use force by outlawing self-defense tools like firearms and knives.

Now, let us come back to the term “martialist.” What is a martialist? There are some self-defense advocates who consider the term "martial artist" to be something derogatory, indicative of the watering-down of martial ability among commercially available martial arts over the last few decades. I like the term "martialist" better because it encompasses the philosophy one might describe for each and every armed, prepared citizen -- each self-defense exponent.

Fundamentally, however, a martialist is devoted to the development of skill in the field of using force – of applying physical violence in order to defend against the same. If your martial art cannot be used for self-defense, it is not a martial art at all. Similarly, if you are a political leftist, you cannot be a martial artist or a martialist. You cannot call yourself "pro-gun" or a defender of the Second Amendment, either, because you support an ideology that actively works against an armed and free citizenry, even if you disagree with this aspect of that ideology.

Clearly, anyone who believes it is justified to take what one “needs” from others without those others’ consent, who believes the life of a rapist has as much value as the life of the person raped, or who would deny the individual’s right to self-defense by prohibiting the tools of self-defense, is not a martial artist at all. If such a person trains in a martial art, he or she is simply playing at the concept of self-defense while living a life in total contradiction to that concept. To hold self-defense in contempt while training in some system devoted to it is the worst form of paradox. It is self-denial and evasion writ large on the wall of firign range, dojo, or kwoon. It is contemptible, it is unsupportable, and it is self-destructive. If one holds to some of these tenets but not others, one is mired in paradox and one's conflicted philosophy is working against itself.

No, a political leftist cannot be "pro gun." He may believe he supports firearms rights, but he also supports an ideology whose adherents are even now working against firearms rights.

A "pro gun" leftist is an impossibility, despite what the leftist himself believes.
 
The inherent flaw with your argument is that you believe your definition of "leftist" is the only one applicable. It's not so when others identify themselves as leftist despite holding none or few of those beliefs you mentioned and you assign your own meaning to that person's words you are doing both sides of the argument a disservice.

Sorry but just because you feel that a self-proclaimed leftist must hold unpatriotic views does not mean that they do.
 
Sorry but just because you feel that a self-proclaimed leftist must hold unpatriotic views does not mean that they do.

Especially when you take the liberty of defining patriotism narrowly according to your own personal views.

Seven years in the military and a combat veteran...but yeah, I suppose I am unpatriotic.

Just out of curiosity...amendment banning flag burning: patriotic or unpatriotic?

EDIT: Even better...actual burning of a US flag: patriotic or unpatriotic? According to my definitions of patriotism, it can be either...though obviously it's more likely to be the latter.
 
Redworm

"The inherent flaw with your argument is that you believe your definition of "leftist" is the only one applicable. It's not so when others identify themselves as leftist despite holding none or few of those beliefs you mentioned"

As a self-proclaimed sorta-kinda-leftist, what is your definition?
 
As a self-proclaimed sorta-kinda-leftist, what is your definition?
:confused: I have not proclaimed myself as one at all. My views are primarily libertarian or if you prefer the pop-culture term, South Park Republican. One of the biggest problems with the political environment in the US is the absurd notion that there are only two sides to it.
 
As a self-proclaimed sorta-kinda-leftist, what is your definition?

Not directed at me, but I'll throw my $.02 in.

-Primarily I consider myself a leftist because I feel the government has no business legislating morality. I feel that as long as there is no victim, people should be able to do what they want regardless of what my religion says. From gay marriage to obscenity to drugs.

-I think our military intervention in other countries more often than not does more harm than good. The few times we have a chance to do good with it, we usually screw it up (see Afghanistan for a recent example). WWI and WWII were simply exceptions to this rule. Though of course they were "real" wars too, which helped.

-I think relatively unrestricted immigration is still good for this country. I'm not a fan of illegal immigration, but I'd rather see immigration reform happen before we start worrying about enforcing our current laws.

-In general, I think social programs do more harm than good. I'm not thoroughly convinced that nationalized healthcare would work out as well as some like to think, but I don't think our current system is working particularly well either so I'd not be opposed to giving it a shot (though no, I'm not excited about it either). I think some welfare-type programs can be a good thing, though I do think that many on the left (especially the far left) take them too far. Again, poverty causes many negative effects both tangible and intangible. And social programs can be cheaper than, say, prisons and law enforcement. As I said in the other thread, any support I have for social programs comes is pragmatic, not egalitarian.

-I immediately dismiss any and all arguments from tradition. If that's all you got, you got nothin'.

-I generally worry about the rights of others as much or more so than my own. For instance, my strong support of gay rights though not gay. My feeling that stopping the widespread acceptance of rape in our prison system is actually more important than worrying about any silly "assault weapon" bans, though I've never been and never plan to go to prison (and do favor "assault weapon" ownership).

All of these, to me, I associate more closely with those labeled as being on "the left" in our country. Though as Redworm pointed out, acting as if there is only "the left" and "the right" and that those in two groups all think in any way alike presents a false dichotomy that in no way reflects reality. If anything, the political spectrum is two-dimentional (possibly even three dimensional), rather than the linear model our two-party system (which I hate) would suggest.

Why do I self-identify as "leftist?" Because it fits me better than "right-wing," and small/closed-minded people often feel the need to group somebody into one of the two groups. Also because I don't feel particularly "moderate" either. I hold extreme views on different issues from both sides of the spectrum.

But trying to define "leftists" as a singular group is an exercise in futility, because there is no such animal.

Election reform, anybody?
 
In 2007 it is what it is, like it or not.
No, it's not. The political parties with a chance of winning may be limited to two but that does not mean the political spectrum is purely left and right. There is no paradox in believing that firearms are an inherent right and believing that only science belongs in science class. There is no paradox in believing that our borders should be secure and believing that occupying foreign lands is horrendously wrong. There is no paradox in believing that all consenting adults should have the right to do with their bodies as they see fit and that all consenting adults should have the right to believe in whatever diety they see fit.

None at all. The two sided political spectrum is a lie.
 
A couple questions for the original poster.

Would you call Jane Fonda a leftist?

Do you think Jane Fonda would decline to defend herself or have her staff or the police do so if attacked?

Would you call Castro or Chavez leftists?

Do you think Castro or Chavez would politely decline to defend themselves or have their underlings do so if attacked?

Perhaps you should spend your time thinking about things you have a clue about rather than this issue.
 
Perhaps you should spend your time thinking about things you have a clue about rather than this issue.

+1. The original post is very poorly thought out with a very narrow worldview.
 
Leftism is unpatriotic.

Leftism is contrary to self-defense.

Leftism is built on theft and immorality.

You sir are a sad individual. I don't think your post could be any more insulting to people that do not share your skewed view of the political landscape. But I thank you for sharing YOUR views on what YOU think "leftist" people are all about so I can just go ahead and completely ignore all your subsequent posts from now on.
 
tibu

"But I thank you for sharing YOUR views on what YOU think "leftist" people are all about so I can just go ahead and completely ignore all your subsequent posts from now on."

My guess is that you won't be able to stifle yourself. Just a guess....
 
Funny......I thought the original post was right on the money!

It was rampant with mis-information and over simplification resulting in conclusions that are actually non-sequiturs. I glad you liked it. Maybe you should follow in his footsteps and become an objectivist, but don't forget to check in religion at the door.
 
The fact that some leftists (most, philosophically, and some physically) are willing to do violence to assert their dominance has nothing to do with the philosophy of self-defense. Some leftists are pacifists, some are hypocritcal pacifists (those who preach pacifism while reserving violence for their own ends and self-preservation), and some are aggressors (Chavez comes to mind) -- but all share, philosophically, the belief that YOU have no right to defend YOURSELF because you are subordinate to the state and the community.

It makes many self-proclaimed leftists extremely uncomfortable to be shown the rational ramifications of their philosophies (which are often inconsistent and contradictory). I can't help that. If you're a self-proclaimed leftist, you can't be "pro gun," nor are you part of the solution when it comes to self-defense. You're willing aligning yourself with the forces that are a the root of the problems necessitating self-defense, from both individual violence and Statist tyranny.
 
SecDef

"It was rampant with mis-information and over simplification resulting in conclusions that are actually non-sequiturs."

I've noticed that you offer nothing in the way of correcting this "mis-information", other than chirping from the peanut gallery.
 
I thought it was "right on the money". What is there to disagree with? You are the one telling us how the editorial was full of "mis-information and over simplification resulting in conclusions that are actually non-sequiturs".

Guess we'll just have to take your word for it.
 
If you're a self-proclaimed leftist, you can't be "pro gun,"
aw jeez :

Applying your own personal definition to the word "leftist" does not mean that the rest of us have to agree. I don't consider myself a leftist but you might...yet I'm certainly pro gun. I hold many views you consider leftist but I'm a strong proponent of self-defense and a long time martial artist.
 
I thought it was "right on the money". What is there to disagree with? You are the one telling us how the editorial was full of "mis-information and over simplification resulting in conclusions that are actually non-sequiturs".

Guess we'll just have to take your word for it.

Mis-information: The defining tenets.
Over-simplification leading to false conclusions: Everything in bold.

It's called a strawman argument. The fact that you don't recognize it as such means that more than likely a point by point refutation wouldn't affect your opinion one way or another. You seem pretty set in your opinion. That's cool.

I'll throw you a bone though: There's a difference between avoiding war at all costs and making war an option of last resort. Confusing the two in defining "leftist" is a mistake. Kind of like defining "righties" as fascists.
 
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