CA Semiauto Rifle Registration

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PKAY

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To all CA TFL members - If you intend to comply with the semiauto registration law, here are a few tips:

1) Use only the form provided by DOJ through licensed gun dealer, ranges, or your local PD.

2) Do not fold the form (BTW, it's an "odd" size semi-cardboard the consistency of manila folder). You will need a medium to large size manila envelope as well.

3) Fill it out EXACTLY as the instructions state. Any, and I mean ANY, deviation from same will result in your registration being denied and returned to you unprocessed.

4) Obtain your right thumb print impression from the police department. Don't do it yourself. The form states that if the "DOJ identification specialists determine the impression quality is unacceptable, the application will be returned unprocessed."

5) Make your $20 check out to "Department of Justice," or "DOJ." This information is NOT provided on the form. I just got off the phone with DOJ a few minutes ago and verified same.

6) Mail your completed registration card along with your remittance via certified mail, just to be sure; although DOJ says it will provide you with a written notification of registration within 15 days. It was suggested that you carry this paperwork or facsimile thereof with you in your range bag when you go shooting.

7) Register as early as possible just in case DOJ denies your application, so you may reapply in time to meet the December 31st deadline.

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Safe shooting - PKAY
 
Is this form available online? It'd be another good one to show the fence-sitters, along with those Aussie forms.
 
IMHO, ANYONE who "registers" their firearms is an idiot, and should just drop them off at their local LEA. Saves time, and they'l ultimately end up there anyway.

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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." - H.L. Mencken
 
And after complying with all this BS, expect to lose your gun for sure in a few years, because the only reason they're registering them is to know who to confiscate them from.

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
Don't forget that $10 from your registration fee will be used for the handsome alphanumeric tattoo on your right forearm at some future unannounced date.

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It is far better to dare mighty things, though riddled with failure, than to live in the dull grey of mediocrity.
 
Guns, what guns? Not that I live in dreaded Kali, but that would be my response for atleast some of my guns. As has been stated, just drop them off at the Police station now and save yourself the tax $$ they will use to confiscate them in a few years.

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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein
 
I live in PRK. According to D. Fienstien, she melted hers down into a cross and gave to pope.----Sounds like a winner to me. I did the same thing.

madison

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TAZ:
Guns, what guns? Not that I live in dreaded Kali, but that would be my response for atleast some of my guns. As has been stated, just drop them off at the Police station now and save yourself the tax $$ they will use to confiscate them in a few years.

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Comply or Die!!

Bill Lockyear, Grey Davis, and all the rest of the Kalif. Kommunistnazis intend to either take your guns, or have their thugs murder you and your family. (Think not?! Remember Waco.)

J.B.
 
Simple. Register your weapons if you like shooting them. If they try a buy back or raiding houses then sell them or move them out of state. No reason to not register them because if you don't your SOL when you get an itch to shoot them. That's the way I see it and tomorrow is when I go down to register my evil, mind contoling AR.

markd
 
Markd....please keep us posted on how soon before you will be unable to shoot your registered firearms(s).1 year or two? And will you turn it in when they change the law again? Good Luck....and Godspeed.
 
Well Mr X if you lived in Cal, I could tell you that you have 101 days to shoot your rifle before it would be taken. Sounds easy when you live in another state, but for me it is easier to stay legal than keep looking over my back. So by making comments such as that you are misleading people into thinking they should bury there rifles or just keep them in the safe. So if they ever have this type of law in your state, than we will see what you will do. More than likely you will be down waiting in line at the Sherrifs office like everyone else. Be warned that California tries to set an example for which other states are to follow. This may come to a town near you.

markd
 
MarkD you wouldnt have to look over your shoulder if they didnt have all your info from registration, how bout you ask all those sks owners who registered during the "amnesty" period how they feel.

And yes I do live in PRK.

As I see it there is a federal law prohibiting registration and believe this applies to my state IMO.So I damn well am not sending them money to violate my constitutional rights. But to each his own.

So if I want to shoot that bad I'll just drive to AZ OR NV, where there are some vestiges of freedom still.

46, I dont have anything to register either as I MELTED all mine down into crosses to and the one that the virgin mary appeared on I sent to the Pope FedX :) The rest I gave to the children.

Perhaps one of our most oppressed members can explain it best. This is where we are headed.

Bruce in West Oz. "Despite being called "Uniform Firearms Laws", there are differences between States. Basically, this is how it works in Western Australia:
• ALL semi-auto rifles and shotguns, and pump action shotguns banned, with (very) limited exceptions based on land ownership/need, physical disability etc.
• ALL firearms are registered and you require an FAL (Firearms Licence). Each firearms is licenced and treated separately.
• To get a licence for a firearm (and you have to do this each time), you need to convince the police you have a genuine REASON and NEED for the firearm. "Reason" is generally "destruction of vermin" or for "competition purposes".
• For competition purposes, your licence will be endorsed appropriately; you can NOT use that firearm for any other purpose, not even hunting.
• A so-called "open licence" allows you to use the firearm for hunting and/or targets. However, you are required to obtain written permission from each landowner on whose property you intend to shoot. Based on the property size and proximity to other people etc., the police will make a decision on what calibre weapon you may acquire. It is difficult for the average person to get sufficient land to get much more than, say, a .222 or .243. Police were endorsing licences to only allow you to shoot on one property -- but a pro-gun lawyer here had that practice stopped.
• "Need" is based on convincing the police that you need, say, a 22-250 for long distance varmint shooting if you already have a 22 Hornet; or that a 22LR Anschutz AST Achiever is fine for target work, but for rabbits you'd rather use a Winchester lever action in 22LR; or that you're not keen on taking your $5000 Perazzi over-and-under out fox shooting. To them, ONE centrefire, ONE rimfire and ONE shotgun should meet all your needs -- they have problems seeing why you'd NEED more.
• The same rules apply for shotguns -- note that duck shooting has been banned for years, thanks to the animal liberationists.
• "Self-defence" is expressly excluded by legislation as a reason for gun ownership.
• There is no such thing as CCW. Handguns may only be obtained on a competition basis, and must have a specified form of support from a recognised firearms club. You will need to have undergone a safety/training course, on-range supervision, and six months probation (in most clubs) before you will get club support. You must then shoot competitively at least once every eight weeks, or support is withdrawn and the pistol seized by the police. Needless to say, using it *anywhere* except on a range will result in charges being laid against you.
• There is a 28-day waiting period for each and every firearms acquisition (sometimes rigidly enforced; sometimes not).
• Gun cabinets (steel to police specifications) are mandatory. These are to be bolted to the wall and floor inside your home. Keys are to be "hidden". Firearm bolts and ammo to be stored separately from the rifle inside another locked section/box inside the cabinet. NO ONE (not even your wife) may have access to the cabinet, unless he/she has a licence to use your firearms.
• No private firearms sales (must be done through your local cop shop or a licensed dealer)
• Adverts offering guns (or parts) or ammo/reloading consumables must contain your licence no. (Makes it easy to check)
• Police may enter your home without warrant to check on your storage, but not without notice.
• Even possessing one round of ammunition for a calibre for which you have no licence will find you charged by the police.
• A domestic violence order against you will see your firearms seized.
• "Medical professionals" may notify the police to seize your firearms if they don't feel you should have them. The right to sue these people has been blocked by specific legislation; you have no method of redress against them.
• If your firearms are taken by police, the onus is on you to prove you are a fit and worthy person to have them back. You go before a sort of "tribunal" to do this (at your own expense).
• A similar situation prevails if your application for a licence/firearm is refused.
• Use a firearm to defend yourself and you WILL be charged.

Look, there's heaps more, but that gives you the main idea.

And, of course, now we're told these rules aren't "strict enough" ............"



[This message has been edited by oberkommando (edited September 21, 2000).]
 
I WILL NOT register ANY guns!
I WILL NOT get into the cattle cars!
I WILL NOT be herded into the Stalag!
I WILL NOT be herded into the showers!

Why do you want me to....stand against that wall?
What's this blindfold for?
What do you mean, "Do I want a last cigarette?


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[This message has been edited by DorGunR (edited September 21, 2000).]
 
Massachusetts has had registration for all guns for near 50 years.

To this day, they don't have my records right.

:rolleyes:

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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
markd/ober

Do ranges ask for a license before you can shoot. The one I go to has NEVER asked me what I was shooting.

Just a thought before you tell 'em how to get you firearm.

madison
 
madision,
They may have not asked you yet but some ranges are stricter than others. I know the county range I go to will probaly do it because they are state funded. So private ranges are different, but have a feeling there will be a fine if they do not enforce it. Going to Nevada sounds fine except that it is 4 hours away and if you are caught bringing the firearms back with you than you are screwed. So there is no easy answer to this f-uped law.

markd
 
"Be warned that California tries to set an example for which other states are to follow. This may come to a town near you."
-markd

This is the EXACT reason why you should do EVERYTHING in your power to not register and set yourself up for a trip to the showers later. Do you think that if NOBODY registered their guns and beurocrats actually had to do some work to enorce the law other states would want to follow suit??? On the other hand, if you all just line up and volunteer to be opressed then why shouldn't another state try it also.

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"Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes."
-R.A. Heinlein
 
Wow! Lotsa reactions. The facts are these, gents: If you register, you're grandfathered and legal. If you don't, you're a felon in the eyes of the state of California. If you go shooting in California with a proscribed weapon, you will be arrested unless you have proof of registration. If you own more than 1 gun, you will lose all of them as well as your ability to purchase any more. In other words, you're f***ed. I will be willing to bet DOJ will be sending agents around to various ranges to check.
 
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