bye bye tannerite

Originally Posted by dakota.potts
I just think most people who buy it do stupid things with it...
Now that is just narrow minded internet babble, right there!
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How on earth would some one come to the conclusion that MOST PEOPLE do stupid things with it?
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It is really easy to come to such a conclusion, even if it may be incorrect. It is easy to come to such a conclusion because the really stupid stuff is what is commonly circulated and gains notoriety.

Sounds an awful lot like an Anti-Gun person there!
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Tannerite isn't a gun and so not liking tannerite or thinking people abuse it is not anti-gun. How could you possibly confuse such issues, or was that just an ad hominem attack? :confused:

Personally, I think tannerite is one of those facets that the lay-public associates with firearms and frequently sees in a negative manner because of the stupid stuff people do with it. I have shot it several times and found it to be an interesting reactive target, but of limited utility.

As a range owner with friends, I despise the stuff. People want to bring tannerite to my range, which is okay, but that is just a gateway permission. Once there, they don't want to just shoot tannerite, but to blow stuff up with it. Blowing up stuff creates a mess and then the joy of the explosions is tempered by searching for and collecting the newly created garbage left behind. Generally speaking, they never get all the pieces and cleanup then has to happen over several visits to the range which is never accomplished by the boom boom guests.
 
Tannerite isn't a gun and so not liking tannerite or thinking people abuse it is not anti-gun.
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Its one of the ways we are (as gun owners) shooting ourselves in the foot. Because of that it is an indirect attack. I get your point about damage & debris, but that's slob shooters, If they didn't be slobs with Tannerite they'd be slobs with something else.

You hate Tannerite, so it should be banned.
OK using the same logic I hate skeet shooters taking up so much range space, so that should be banned. Target shooters are too slow & not exciting enough so they should be banned. Hunters are inhumane so hunting should be banned & so on till everything someone doesn't like is banned. That leaves us exactly nothing, nada zip, bubpkis.

Every time we get divided we get weakened. We need to like the bunch of twigs in the parable bond together instead of separating.

Note: before someone misunderstands this it is an example of narrow mindedness & fictional. I don't dislike any shooting discipline.
 
Let me rephrase my comment: an awful lot of people who buy tannerite buy it for the purpose of doing stupid things with it on the internet. A majority of the people who buy it? Probably not, but enough.

I don't think it should be illegal, but it seems like there's a group of people doing whatever they can to make sure it becomes illegal if antis ever start looking in to it. They do us no favors with some of the stuff they do with it, and I don't think we have any constitutional argument in court if it does get banned, considering thermite, C4, Semtex and others are presumptively constitutional to ban
 
Potts, That's better!:)

DNS, I was using the comparison that being anti-tannerite is like being anti-gun, or anti anything else for that matter. Anti's just think they know better than the other guy!

And BTW, the reason tannerite is associated with firearms is because a high velocity collision is needed to set it off. The only thing we have that works for ignition are guns! Thus the connection!
 
People have been blowing stuff up with tannerite since it was invented. Just now we have the handy dany internet to show the world, sort of a "hold my beer and watch this" mentality at times. Yep its fun to shoot a few times but that was enough for me. But if someone else wants to play with it legally and safely hell have at it. The feral hog blast was, well can't decide if it was awesome or disturbing.
 
When used in the manner it was meant to it is not that bad. Lots of long range shooters will use it for the sole purpose of being able to tell when they hit the target. Shooting at 1200 yards or more can become a issue to see where you hit. With this stuff when you hit you know it.
 
Tannerite has been giving target shooters a bad name up here recently. Restitution was ordered to illegal target shooters for using Tannerite to start a wildfire outside of Bend. http://www.ktvz.com/news/restitution-ordered-after-targetshooting-sparks-wildfire/29387308

There was another much larger fire started by target shooters this summer, but I haven't confirmed yet if they were using tannerite.

I don't use it myself and wouldn't vote to ban it but with all the youtube antics using this stuff I wont be surprised it ends up banned if possible.
 
Koda94-- Tannerite used properly will not start a fire. Now if you take more than what is needed i suppose that is a possability. There are those that want to make a bomb with the stuff and blow stuff up,but used in the 1 inch plastic containers the odds of it starting a fire are zero. Myself- I don't use it either as you say-

Last month I was shooting at 1400 yards- I fire 5 shots and drive to target to see. Paste my hole and drive back,fire 5 more and repeat..

There was a story going around last year or so of a guy that did a 55 gallon barrel full placed inside a large roll off dumpster. They say it blew the roll off to pcs also. Caused a bit of a up roar with the residents and the police. There is always one Idiot in every group though.
 
The fact is it can be a lot of fun if used responsibly. Much like driving a car or drinking a beer it can be dangerous it not used responsibly. I dont know anyone killed by Tannerite, but I know a bunch who have been killed by beer and cars.
 
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Tannerite used properly will not start a fire.
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No, Tannerite used safely will not start a fire. There is a difference, the very purpose of using Tannerite is to start an explosive fire...
 
Tannerite used safely will not start a fire? I guess you could say that about anything. So that means that if a fire is caused by Tannerite, it wasn't being used safely.

Okay, the question then becomes one of safety. Has anyone here ever witnessed other shooters (or themselves) shooting at targets in a manner that might be considered unsafe? Now most people will tell you that everything they were doing was safe...until the disaster occurred. Few folks 'fess-up and say that they were being really reckless and negligent before the fire/injury occurred.
 
I'm pretty surprised it hasn't been banned or severely limited like common dynamite has become. It would be a joke to make a command detonation device for this stuff.
 
Koda94- No that is not the purpose tannerite was designed. It was a explosive not a fire starter. Common use is blowing up beaver dams in a safe manner. Was never meant to start fires.

Double-- When i say used properly- It is a reactive target nothing more. Now using it 1 or more LBS at a time is unsafe -yes I will grant you that. Put in 1 or 2 OZ containers for a reactive target- It is very safe and WILL not start a fire.
 
Double Naught Spy said:
Tannerite used safely will not start a fire? I guess you could say that about anything. So that means that if a fire is caused by Tannerite, it wasn't being used safely.
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yes, that was my point. like in the article I shared...

Double Naught Spy said:
Has anyone here ever witnessed other shooters (or themselves) shooting at targets in a manner that might be considered unsafe?
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In the article I shared, they were placing Tannerite in juniper trees and blowing them up. Not only illegal, but not safe there was a fire prevention order in effect prohibiting exploding targets.

4runnerman said:
Koda94- No that is not the purpose tannerite was designed. It was a explosive not a fire starter. Common use is blowing up beaver dams in a safe manner. Was never meant to start fires.
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I'll admit Im not that familiar with Tannerite, how does something explode without causing heat/flame? I know its not a 'fire starter' by design but my understanding of something that explodes involves heat and flame which is technically starting a fire. The article I shared is an example. Im curious how you know blowing up beaver dams with Tannerite is common use?
 
Koda- Do a google search. It is very popular for that purpose. Safe as one does not have to walk out on dam to place it as with dynomite. No fuses to light.
The DNR or Land owner will grab a container ( what size I do not know ) throw it out on the dam and shoot it. Quick,Fast,Safe and never a fire.
 
It would be a joke to make a command detonation device for this stuff.
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Really? Are you sure?
This needs a high speed projectile impact to "go off".
You can't just stick a det & a cell phone into it & get a bang.
 
I wonder if someone could make a detonator using encased black powder and a fuse as a makeshift blasting cap.
 
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