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Brush Prairie, WA Lady Hit By "Stray" Bullet
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I live in washington now, on any given half dry day you can hear people shooting all around....
I suspect the round came from someplace other than the range....
I wouldn't put much stock in portland media, especially katu.
Washington is currently under an onslaught of anti-gun campaigns... The population is very pro-gun, it's a proving ground for new gun legislation. Powers that be (philanthropists that I won't name) managed to get a law passed that requires background checks on person to person transfers..,
There have been a few civil disobedience rallies in washington state recently. One is going on right now at the legislature gallery... But it won't be on the news
I suspect the round came from someplace other than the range....
I wouldn't put much stock in portland media, especially katu.
Washington is currently under an onslaught of anti-gun campaigns... The population is very pro-gun, it's a proving ground for new gun legislation. Powers that be (philanthropists that I won't name) managed to get a law passed that requires background checks on person to person transfers..,
There have been a few civil disobedience rallies in washington state recently. One is going on right now at the legislature gallery... But it won't be on the news
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Bullets should NOT be leaving the range property. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WAS THERE FIRST. It's ridiculous to say home owners are at fault when their homes are hit by bullets leaving a shooting range. Try that logic on a civil attorney and see how long he laughs at you.
We had this problem at our range a few years ago. A civil engineer was hired to evaluate the situation and he recommended turning the 300 yard rifle range a few degrees and raising the berm another 6 feet. It was done. No more complaints from neighbor.
We had this problem at our range a few years ago. A civil engineer was hired to evaluate the situation and he recommended turning the 300 yard rifle range a few degrees and raising the berm another 6 feet. It was done. No more complaints from neighbor.
Folks on here that are from that area have posted that its a false claim to get the range shut down . There seems to be some evidence to that like picking up bullits from the range . I hope the locals can do a propper investagation . The range should make some changes being that next to others houses .
A Dr can't look at a superficial wound and tell you exactly what caused itDoctors told her that a bullet entered and exited her scalp
I'm betting she told them it was a bullet wound
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Clar...ury-to-shooting-range-291342121.html?mobile=y
VANCOUVER, Wash. – The Clark County Sheriff’s Office said Monday that it could not find any evidence that a stray bullet from a rifle range hit and wounded a Brush Prairie woman.....
From the above link:
BTW: The sheriff's office was supposed to inspect that range and certify its safety every five years. Last time the sheriff's office inspected the range was 1996.
It also said it could not determine from which direction it came; however, investigators couldn’t rule out that the object did come from the rifle range.
“Investigators are unable to make any determination that the injuries were the result of criminal intent, recklessness or negligence at this time,” the sheriff’s office said in a news release. “Since there is no evidence of criminal activity this investigation is suspended.”
BTW: The sheriff's office was supposed to inspect that range and certify its safety every five years. Last time the sheriff's office inspected the range was 1996.
Who was there first? Was the range built before the house was? If so, grandfather law.
yeah concerning noise, traffic and whatnot, nobody shouold have to accept stray bullets
Buzzard Bait
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You will not win that argument
You are responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun period end of sentence, and if the shoot came from a range, the range is also responsible there is no winning any argument to the contrary doesn't matter who was there first its not a four way stop sign.
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You are responsible for every bullet that comes out of your gun period end of sentence, and if the shoot came from a range, the range is also responsible there is no winning any argument to the contrary doesn't matter who was there first its not a four way stop sign.
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The Sheriffs office investigation found no EVIDENCE she was struck by a bullet.
They are just unhappy that the range is near their house IMHO, even though it was there before they moved in.
The Sheriffs office investigation found no EVIDENCE she was struck by a bullet.
They are just unhappy that the range is near their house IMHO, even though it was there before they moved in.
The Sheriffs office investigation found no EVIDENCE she was struck by a bullet.
Yep, the sheriff's office also found no evidence she was not struck by a bullet. Given the fact that the sheriff's office has not inspected that range since 1996, i'm not surprised.
Did the Sheriff dig the bullet(s) out of their house?
Theres entirely too many homes down range of this place, at least 6 or 7 right near the end within a few degrees of center.
Want to shut the place down? This lady needs to file a nuisance civil suit claiming damages to her home for the other bullet, pain/suffering/mental distress to get their liability insurance involved, then send underwriting the satellite images of surrounding home locations and proximity.
I doubt they'd continue coverage, particularly if there is even a whiff of a pattern of escapee bullets. Its a set-up for a gigantic loss if a serious injury/death were to ever happen.
If they're self-insured (bonded) the same process could trigger a bond review, potentially shutting them down.
Theres entirely too many homes down range of this place, at least 6 or 7 right near the end within a few degrees of center.
Want to shut the place down? This lady needs to file a nuisance civil suit claiming damages to her home for the other bullet, pain/suffering/mental distress to get their liability insurance involved, then send underwriting the satellite images of surrounding home locations and proximity.
I doubt they'd continue coverage, particularly if there is even a whiff of a pattern of escapee bullets. Its a set-up for a gigantic loss if a serious injury/death were to ever happen.
If they're self-insured (bonded) the same process could trigger a bond review, potentially shutting them down.
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Stray bullets can come from anywhere. Having a range you do not want there makes for a convenient scapegoat. There were bullet holes all around the Downriver area where I came from, but alas, the nearest range was always about 7 miles away. Even so people around it were eventually able to get it closed down, mostly because of noise. They were always the chief complaints and people could go directly to hell with those complaints, had I been king, as the range preceded anyone living in that area by decades. Ranges can help protect themselves by inspecting ammo used and documenting it during the day. Many of the indoor ranges already do that for other reasons. If somebody is hit by a .357 and on that day no .357s were used, case closed as far as the range's responsibility. I don't have a problem with holding ranges responsible for bullets leaving their property, but I have a huge problem with noise complaints from people that knew a range was in place when they purchased, and bullet complaints that immediately belong to the range, simply because they're there.
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The Sheriffs office investigation found no EVIDENCE she was struck by a bullet.
Yep, the sheriff's office also found no evidence she was not struck by a bullet. Given the fact that the sheriff's office has not inspected that range since 1996, i'm not surprised.
When did it become the sheriff job to inspect firing ranges?
When did it become the sheriff job to inspect firing ranges?
It's stipulated in the license of that so called "firing range".
The On Your Side Investigations also raised questions about inspections at the shooting range. KATU obtained a 1996 license that showed Clark Rifles was subject to inspection by the Clark County Sheriff's Office every five years.
When KATU asked Neiman about this, he wasn't sure if the inspections were carried out but said he would look into the matter.
McCauley said he also placed a call to Neiman to see if the inspections had been carried out as stated in the license.
"Certainly, when the county issues a license for a a dangerous activity, we have a responsibility to make sure that that activity is carried on safely," McCauley said.
Look at the interview with the county manager:
http://www.katu.com/news/investigat...ed-significantly-290875481.html?tab=video&c=y
So the sheriff's office failed to do their job. The owners of that unsafe "firing range" cared less about range safety because "they were there first".
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