Brass framed cap&baller revolvers

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Enyaw's Pic of brass frame repair/armament package.
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i have a few BRASSERS shot probably around 5-700 out of both of them and they still fire good. just have to know how to treat them.
 
Thanks for posting that pic for me Smoking Gun. I guess the steel backplate aroung the recoil shields ring can be seen. It's the silver grey part soldered on the frame. That frame(gun) is about 17 years old I thunk. Still tight and still shoots well. I shoot 20-22 gr. FFFg in it out of chambers reamed to a coupla .001's in. over the barrels groove diameter. Reaming the chambers to be slightly larger in diameter than the barrels groove diameter makes the pressure rise too. I've fired 27gr. FFFg and 27gr. 777 in the gun some too. The 777 in that charge is TOO HOT. The gun is a soft brass ASM frame too but still ticking after taking a licking because of the steel backplate protecting the recoil shields raised ring the cylinder hits back against. Believe it or not....I shot a six shot group across my pond(40 yards at least) that was only a little over 2 inches with that brass framer and 27 gr. 777 . Off hand too. :p Lucky I guess.:D Lucky I only did it once cuz that 777 is too HOT.
 
ya it is. If i have enough time you know what i could do that easy. I dont have any problems with my guns. i wouldnt mind finding a bad one and trying that out though
 
Scrat, I did that steel ring plate to that brasser over 15 years ago. That ring can be a big plus to fix up a brasser that's got the ring behind the cylinder dented in in those six spots. It makes the cylinder gap back to normal again. It's part that's called a narrow rimmed bushing fo machines and tractors and all. Hardware and tractor parts places have them. I list the right size and gauge(thickness) up above somewhere. It takes a little filing but it's not a mind blowing pull yer hair out kind of job. Just fit it and solder it on, shorten the nipple cones so they don't chainfire against the steel plate. I think of it as a steel plate backplate. I'll taken peoples brassers that were cylinder gaped big enough to drive a truck thru and backplated them and they's back on the range again. I liked to do that for guys comin into my humble little shop back then that were kinda short on funds. I'd fix their brasser fer cheap or nuthin and they would be real happy that day they came to get it and there wasn't a big bill to pay to get the old brasser back on the range or out in the field. You know those kinda guys that are usually young and pull in with 3-4 little kids bouncing around in the old truck and worn cloths and all. Like money is tight. Wife looking like she needs dentist work bad and the kids have no shoes and all. I remember the wifes would get a look of relief when the bill was "0" or very little for fixin the guns.
 
I still don't see the relevance of your next to last posting in this thread, you'r family has been in military service for this country & where your family had come from is comendable but not relevent to the OP's thread.
 
Smokin': My reply was to Doc Hoy's post and the term "war of northern aggression" further upthread
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Well, I still don't link what you posted to Doc's Relpy...but the term "The War Against Northern Aggression" is a true Statement. as the North or Federals attemped to tax the hell out of the South with the onset of Eli Whitney's Cotten Gin. The South Refused and left the Union...the North threatened to kick the South Out of the Union(after they had aready Suceeded)if they din't pay the taxes. In utter frustration the the blamed the South for Slavery ...then the first shot and kill was made by a Black Confederate Soldier, and the War begun...(in short)
If this has no relevance to this thread please remove it...
 
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>>>Smokin': My reply was to Doc Hoy's post and the term "war of northern aggression" further upthread<<<

Yeah, and unfortunately your post (unlike his) has jack to do with this thread and is completely off topic on top of being beyond stupid given your own admission that your family had nothing to do with the history in question! Un friggen believable...

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"The ignore list is my friend. The ignore list is my friend...."
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Not enough people are using it. Wonder if someone can be banned by popular demand. Nah cuz I'm still here.:D
 
I have to agree with THE "original" SMOKIN GUN. Infant munufacturing during the day caused tarriffs--since Europe could buy cotton from other countries. I had an original brass frame Gunnison that I shot at least 60 times before selling it to a collector back in the 70's for $100.00. I wish I hadn't done that. I think the remake of that model that you can get through Traditions is a pretty good deal at the price. "36 Caliber w/ case! Hammer hand springs are the foremost problem of a weak part breaking. sear springs are cheap. As long as the cylinder lines up at 12 ready to fire and the loading leaver lines smooth at 6 and your screws fit in easy---you're good to go---brass or steel. Wedge needs to fit as snug to seat your cylynder to the barrel without friction. a little tiny gap is okay but not too much. Anyway, that be what I think.
 
Wedge needs to fit as snug to seat your cylynder to the barrel without friction. a little tiny gap is okay but not too much. Anyway, that be what I think.
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You need a .006-.008 cylinder gap to prevent fouling from locking it up. .010-.012 isn't unheard of. We're not talking smokeless powder here where less cylinder gap is better.
 
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