Brady Campaign Board Member Gets CCW

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I agree with the comments that finds Ms. Yewman's actions hypocritical (not training to be ready for her 4th objective) and downright irresponsible (not learning how to propoerly use the equipment she bought).

My only hope is that somehow she is forced by the magazine to get the training for safety's sake and comes around to discover some truth about the merits of CCW and responsible gun ownership.

However, I am not holding my breath.
 
I fear it's the latter. Many of the responses from this thread alone would quickly dismantle her whole MO.
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I am guessing you are right... that article has been linked here, at AR15.com and THR. Yet it only has 38 comments, the majority of which are supportive of the author and several of which make reference to comments that don't appear to exist any more?
 
Yet it only has 38 comments,
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Speculation: I'm thinking the editors at Ms. Magazine had no idea how active the firearms community actually is. I would speculate they were lulled into a false sense of securty by all the non-reporting of the MSM. As a result, the likely tsunami of comments they are receiving was entirely unexpected and too much for their staff to handle.
 
Bluestarlizzard said:
Vanya, she is not letting through comments from pro gunners. She's letting through comments that are on the edge, one of which is clearly Fuddy.

I happen to know she's getting a LOT of comments from some very articulate people capable of speaking politely, yet none of those have gone through, anymore then mine.
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Well, she was letting some fairly strong pro-gun comments through as of a few days ago:
Len says:
June 12, 2013 at 3:33 pm

You have gone about carrying a gun for the wrong reason and in a dangerous manner. It appears from what you have said that you are opposed to the concept of carrying a weapon and give indications that, even at this early stage in your experiment, you are drawing conclusions. I would urge you to seek instruction in the use of a handgun, particularly a Glock which is not the most friendly firearm for a beginner with no experience or knowledge. I have been carrying a sidearm for over thirty years and have enjoyed target practicing with it as well as, over the years, teaching my kids to deal safely with firearms, of course based on their age at different times in their lives. They are now all adults and are safe and comfortable around guns. Most importantly, PLEASE, find a local instructor or gun club and get some instruction before you end shooting yourself in the foot or hurting someone because of your lack of training. Approach your experiment with an open mind and get yourself a copy of Dan Baum’s “Gun Guys”, it may give you a different perspective on the majority of “gun guys” out there.
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That's a comment that could easily have come from one of us, and perhaps it did. ;)

No new comments have been posted since ones made on the 15th, so perhaps she's just behindhand with this. I suppose it's too much to hope that she's rethinking things.

And people wonder why I hate being considered a feminist.
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If you think women are fully capable human beings, you're a feminist in my book. :)

My problem with Ms. Magazine is that it's not feminist enough, and way too aligned with mainstream media; jumping on the anti-gun bandwagon without anyone's thinking through, or even acknowledging, the possibility that guns may empower women, is a good example of this. It's also a carry-over from a belief on the part of some feminists that women shouldn't ever engage in violence, because it's unnatural and "male-identified." When you think about it, that's about as traditional and patronizing a view of women as it's possible to have, and it's in fact anti-feminist. Ironic as all get-out, innit?
 
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The main point I do not understand is how she thinks that anyone who carries concealed actually thinks like she does. Nobody buys a gun if they don't want one.

If a young woman, or anyone for that matter, decides she wants to protect herself via firearms, why would she not be the least bit interested in learning how properly handle it? No one buys stuff for a set purpose only to not seek out knowledge about how to use what they bought for the purpose they bought it for; NO ONE!

Furthermore, does she plan to use what she has "learned" through this asinine experiment to convince legal gun owners, the vast majority of whom, unlike her, are responsible, that owning a gun is either inherently dangerous or completely useless for self defense purposes? That would be laughable.

She is not stepping into any of our shoes by being intentionally ignorant. She is just making herself and her organization(s) look bad. That's putting it lightly.
 
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Yeah, but nothing that outright says "you are full of excriment and this is why"

She's letting in comments that are mild or tepid, about getting training or woman saying they carry and it's ok.

But nothing that refutes her point or actually attempts to engage in debate.

If there is no oppertunity for debate or discussion, I concur that the author just wishes to toot her own horn, rather then actually find something out.

She's got linkies on 4 pro gun boards (that I know of). 41 comments and most of that supporting her?

Vanya, we are all human. The rest is just window dressing. ;)
 
that article has been linked here, at AR15.com and THR.
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I'm sure it's been linked from just about every gun board and blog out there. I doubt the Ms. site has ever gotten so many hits in a single-week period as it is now. The advertisers should be pleased.

jumping on the anti-gun bandwagon without anyone's thinking through, or even acknowledging, the possibility that guns may empower women, is a good example of this.
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Steinem has long been an advocate for gun control. In fact, Ms. magazine once ran a very condescending piece about how women were foolish and deluded if they kept firearms for protection. The claim was that women were playing into male power cliches by doing so, and they closed with the "he'll just take it away and use it on you" argument.

At the moment, googling "Ms. magazine guns" doesn't help in finding it. If anyone remembers the title, I might be able to find it.
 
We (gun owners) tend to be pretty good at writing letters. I'm willing to bet that some of our level headed, gun owning ladies are indeed putting pen to paper and calmly letting the publishers know that the project is insulting to women. Never mind that it's insulting to gun owners. MS magazine is a "Woman" oriented magazine. Letting them know that they've insulted empowerment of women, the very thing the magazine theoretically stands for, seems like it is much more attention getting than "Hairy men with guns on their hips were insulted".

Kat and all the rest of your girls, let the publisher know how you feel. Perhaps on real dead trees and ink.


Sgt Lumpy
 
Psyfly said:
Umm... In this one, not so much.

We pretty much beleive it's the individual's responsibility to cover those issues.

We do have more and more people moving in who believe otherwise, but, so far, still free.
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Excuse me?

Your on-screen signature block indicates that you are posting from Texas. Texas most assuredly DOES require training before you can obtain a carry permit. A lot more training than even most other states that require training. And Texas requires you to re-shoot your qualification target each time you renew, and I don't think any other state requires that.
 
Is there anyone else but me who really, really doubts her description of her prior protest at Starbucks?
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Given the overly dramatic nature of her descriptions of, well, pretty much everything, I have doubts about the truthfulness of anything in that article. I cannot help but wonder if she's really got a gun, or if this is some fanciful piece of, um, fiction she's dreamed up to try and make a point.
 
"Just... wow. I never post comments on blogs, but -- I guess I can't say that any more. That level of irresponsibility is mind-boggling."

Yeah. Me too. :eek: I just had to make a few comments and even offered to give her the training she needs. I know. I'd be more successful urinating up a rope. :( I am an insructor so the offer is legitimate. My post is under moderaton at this time. Five will probably get you ten it won't be allowed even though I was as polite as my nasty nature would allow.
Oh well.
Paul B.
 
I doubt the Ms. site has ever gotten so many hits in a single-week period as it is now. The advertisers should be pleased.
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Just for the record, Ms. doesn't take outside advertising. That's been their policy in the print version for as long as I can remember, and it's also their policy online.

There are now a couple of comments up from earlier today, but none from yesterday, which was when I made mine. :cool:
 
The main point I do not understand is how she thinks that anyone who carries concealed actually thinks like she does. Nobody buys a gun if they don't want one.
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This says a lot. By and large, the people buying firearms for protection buy them because they believe in personal responsibility. They want to be responsible for their safety and their family's safety. It stands to reason the same mindset would push them to seek training. If they don't already have training.

She feels that training should be required by law. Very few people who would assert this right need to be required by law to train- they do so willingly. Those who would not- training probably wouldn't help them anyway.
 
Typical. Reality is not enough to prove their point. Extreme behavior is the proof of the anti gun mind. If I can purposely be irresponsible than that is the mark we legislate from. It is the problem behind so many legislative decisions and group think.
 
Originally posted by Aguila Blanca:
Excuse me?
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My apologies to you and to Mr. Teeroux. I somehow missed or forgot that Ms. Yewman had "obtained a CCW" . I was assuming that Mr. T was avowing that such training was required to buy or own a handgun.

As an update, since Gov. Perry signed HB48 into law last Friday, as of September first coming up, retraining will no longer be required for renewal in TX.

Best,

W
 
I'm in awe of the sheer stupidity this woman displays. Looks like she's taken the minimal learning thing to an extreme by applying her minimal thinking to gun ownership. To think that somewhere, this person gets behind the wheel of a car...

Okay now I'm really scared.
 
somebody offer this woman some free range time and lessons...

30 days from now she will have no argument to write about. Nothing will happen.
 
well, tomorrow will be a week from the 12th. I'm curious what she'll have to say even though I've got a feeling we all know what that is
 
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