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I just looked up this book atthe college library and got a photo of it. Interestingly, another book of about the same publication date, also by Prentice Hall, has the correct Second Amendment text. That makes me wonder who provided the bias (author?) and who provided the sloppy or maliciously ineffective proofreading.

Either way, a disgusting situation.

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Oleg "peacemonger" Volk

http://dd-b.net/RKBA
 
BadMedicine, that Hitler quote is fake. I believe the previous regime enacted gun registration. Hitler made it illegal for Jews & others to own weapons, and it was only easy for Nazi party members to arm legally, so he was a fan of "gun control" for his enemies.
 
Pj0759@aol.com,

This is outrageous and intellectually indefensible. I respectfully suggest you contact your local Board of Education, inform them that a textbook has an obvious -- and likely intentional -- error, and ask them to withdraw the text from service (perhaps next academic year, for practical reasons) with a full refund from the publisher (hit Prentice Hall Simon & Schuster Education Group where it counts -- in their wallet).

Boards frequently do this type of thing with library books and texts that aren't "PC". Let's see if your Board will simply stand-up for the clearly legal and correct interpretation of the Bill of Rights. You might also consider reminding them of the historically documented fact that the Nazis -- and other dictatorial governments -- altered the facts in textbooks as an easy way to gain political control and to dominate political opinions.

Win or loose, you have my fury and my sympathy.


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I coppied it strait from a gun rights page, lemme see if I can find it and post the address here. I'll look into what you said about it being the previos regime.
 
pj, if it will not bring hardship to your son give us the phone number to the schools administrative offices. I know I for one would not mind a long distance phone call on my bill to voice my objections to this (in typical polite, articualte TFL fashion).

Sensop, thank you for going the extra distance to look all the publishing info up.

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Gunslinger

I was promised a Shortycicle and I want a Shortycicle!
 
Gunslinger,good idea. It might be easier if their email address is posted and we can send them polite but concise notes without having to wait until business hours or get the answering machine.
Just a suggestion. :)

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Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
Does the book contain the actual wording of the amendment?
I ask because I was probably no more than 8 or 9 when I first read the second amendment, and it seemed obvious to me at the time what the meaning was: because it might be necessary to form a militia at a moment's notice, the people have the right to keep and bear arms so they can be ready to serve at a moment's notice.
That was my original thought on what it meant, and this was long before I had heard or read any political material. Heck, I'd never heard of the NRA at that time ('63, '64.)

Presented with just the wording of the amendment itself, with no outside commentary, I wonder how many kids would arrive at the same conclusion? I'd be willing to bet that the number would be surprisingly high....which is why all these publishing houses and authors have to put it in "their own words." Heaven forbid that we raise a generation of children who might actually believe that they have a right to protect themselves....

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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
 
Gunsliner and Apple a day: The admininstrative office phone # is 317-839-2578..the email is: www.plainfield.k12.in.us.I appreciate all your efforts here,and thank everyone in advance. I am going to be in contact with the teacher very soon,I am curious as to how he views it personally. My son has commented that they have mentioned the NRA in class,and he said it was not in a negative light. They have not gotten to the constitution as of yet,I found it on my own..just snooping(my parental right). This surprised me,this being a gun friendly statewe have had CCW for several years. Just goes to show you got to be on your toes I guess.The superintendent is Dr. Jerry Holifield..the consumate politician..I had a run in with him a couple of years ago regarding my son being kicked out of school for a week for not telling on a buddy who played a relatively harmless prank on a teacher...you know the zero intellegience policy....but I digress...Please flood emails everyone..Thank you TLF'ers........PJ
 
Hi again..Just an update the website I previous listed for the school is correct,however I had to type it in manually then click on the administrative office selection,you then can send an email to the appropriate people: Superintendent Jerry Holifield..or Principal B. Wakefield. I have sent them both emails,and am drafting a letter,as well as going to next school board meeting,if nothing has been done..Thanks..PJ
 
Oleg: You got a picture of the offending text? That's how I interpret what you posted. Could you make it available, so that I could say I've read it before I send a note off to the school?

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
E-mails sent. ;)
I think the publisher needs a nice slap in the face also. A call to the local T.V. station to see what the news editor thinks of school books missing parts of the Constitution would be interesting!

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BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS, THE ENEMY IS
 
Go proactive. There are several publishing companies that sell pocket-sized editions of the Constitution. Mail one to every teacher at that school. Then sit back and enjoy the fun. No one can charge you with "sending the Constitution through the mails." If they try, even more fun!
 
Update...Just heard via email from the head of the history dept.Supposed to call him tommorrow to discuss this.Also the Superitendent made refrence to them contacting the textbook representative,(well see). Thanks, you guys..the fire getting warm around their toes, I think. I will keep you updated asap...PJ
 
Quote from Oleg Volk: "I just looked up this book atthe college library and got a photo of it. Interestingly, another book of about the same publication date, also by Prentice Hall, has the correct Second Amendment text. That makes me wonder who provided the bias (author?) and who provided the sloppy or maliciously ineffective proofreading."

Is it just me, or does this indicate that there are two versions of this book, one that is factually correct and one that is "politically" correct? Are school boards being offerred a choice? Who is choosing which?

Good Luck,

Ledbetter
 
The books are fairly different inlayouts and are done by different authors. I can try to look up details tonight IF time permits. I will post the image late tonight when I get home.
 
Bless the Google search engine. I put in the title of the book and got: http://www.phschool.com/atschool/pathways/survey/Student_Area/PATH_S_BK.html

"PH@School's Student Pages for the Survey Edition of America: Pathways to the Present"

I checked out Chapter 4 which deals with the Revolution, but there's no mention of the Amendments.

There's also skimpy self-tests for each chapter, but . . . maybe they would be of help to your boy.

On another site (price comparisons), they had this info: http://isbn.nu/0134323866/price

By Cayton, Andrew R.; Perry, Elisabeth I.; Winkler, Allan M.
Published by Prentice Hall (December 1998)
ISBN: 0134323866 Number of pages: xxii, 1032
Binding: Trade cloth
 
Thanks Oatka,that is some good info. They actually have a section entitled: Gun control and crime. It at least mentions the debate,and mentions the RKBA,still does not excuse leaving it out of the ammendments..PJ
 
Since I was on this subject in the "secession" thread...

Folks, local School board elections in small areas are often decided by a few hundred votes. Can you find out whether candidates support second amendment, then get your local gun clubs to ALL support the right candidate? Call the candidates and ask 'em! They will generally answer your calls. Or go to a local debate and catch 'em afterwards.

Believe me, almost no one knows who to vote for in a school board election because no one knows anything about the candidates. if YOU tell the gun club (and church group, etc.) to vote for a certain candidate because they support 2nd amendment, They will vote for the candidate you recommend. YOU can swing the election. Do that 2 or 3 times, and you've got the school board thinking the right way.

THIS CAN BE DONE!
 
One of the most popular college history books, The American Pagaent, by Bailey, Kennedy and Cohen, (Houghton Mifflin) has the constitution in the back. The authors have added "explanatory" notes in several places in the text in a contrasting blue color, but it's right in the text of the constitution rather than at the end of the section.

The second as printed therein:

A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms [i.e., for military purposes] shall not be infringed.

And then there is a footnote:

"The courts, with 'militia' in mind, have consistently held that the 'right' to bear arms is a limited one."
 
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