Bloomberg – Everytown for Gun Safety

I thought it was interesting that in this new ad, as much time was spent bashing the GOA as the NRA. As the old saying goes, the closer to the target, the heavier the flak. If Bloomie is spending this much time bashing the GOA, then it must have a considerable amount of clout and be getting some results there on capitol hill (many on this site have dismissed the GOA as just a bunch of kooks with no real power.)

If I was Larry Pratt, I'd send Bloomie a nice fruit basket or something with a card thanking him for the free publicity.
 
If Bloomie is spending this much time bashing the GOA, then it must have a considerable amount of clout and be getting some results there on capitol hill
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That, or Pratt simply made statements upon which Bloomberg could capitalize.

The distinction he fails to understand is that people don't really go to the polls for gun control. People who support his agenda generally don't get all that riled up over it.

On the other hand, people do get riled up and go to the polls for gun rights. Colorado is a good example. Not as many folks as I'd like to see, but still enough as it is.
 
Tom is correct. The voting pattern is the key to success at the legislative level. Politicians love having a massive war chest filled with Bloombergs money, but it won't buy enough votes to counter pro-gun voters.
 
Maybe I'm a pessimist or overly cynical and am just tired of the hooplah that Bloomberg and his possy keep spouting that I've come to the conclusion that they'll use whatever underhanded tactic they can to try and push their agenda (what politician doesn't?), I'm just waiting for another lousy law to finally be shoved into our face.

Watching the news and hearing about the various scandals and the actions being taken (or the lack thereof) by the American citizenry really puts a damper on my spirits on how much people really care (which they simply don't appear to) about their rights in this country.

At any rate, I'll continue donating to the NRA-ILA and trying to fight the good fight, but it's kind of hard not to get a little discouraged by all the crap that's been going around as of late.
 
it's kind of hard not to get a little discouraged by all the crap that's been going around as of late.
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Politics has always been a dirty game and I have no reason to believe it’s ever going to get better. Many issues are resolved via a compromise or quid pro quo where someone supports legislation to get something in return.

For instance might a Georgia Senator support federal gun control in return for expansion of the Port of Savannah or to win a large contract for production at the Lockheed plant north of Atlanta? Maybe.

At the end of the day all we can do is look for principled candidates that won’t trade our rights away for some short term political gain.
 
In War and Peace Tolstoy laid down a great quote on the static state of politics through time and the changing viewpoint of observers. I'd copy it down here if I had my copy of the book with me, but it is in storage or lost to my transient lifestyle.

Wild Alaska was always fond of the far more succinct:
"Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss"
 
The strategy of targeting women is probably a good one, but I wonder if he might be underestimating the ability of women to make rational decisions on their own.
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If you look at the Pew Research numbers on the stunning number of Americans who don't know gun murder and gun crime are way down, the breakdown shows a huge gender bias on that false view.

women are not generally dumber or more ignorant than men, but they are paranoid and filled with core misconceptions on gun violence; and the majority of US women think, wrongly, gun crime and gun murder is up long term, and a huge chunk think it is the same long term, and virtually none know the correct fact that it has plummeted:
Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago. According to a new Pew Research Center survey, today 56% of Americans believe gun crime is higher than 20 years ago and only 12% think it is lower.
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Men (46%) are less likely than women (65%) to say long-term gun crime is up. Young adults, ages 18 to 29, are markedly less likely than other adults to say long-term crime is up—44% do, compared with more than half of other adults. Minority adults are more likely than non-Hispanic whites to say that long-term gun crime is up, 62% compared with 53%.
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Women who think gun crime is up:65%
Women who think gun crime is flat: 28%
Women who did not answer or answer correctly: 7%

Bloomberg entire campaign targets women for good reason, they have a massive gender based cognitive dissonance on the basic facts of the issue.
 
The distinction he fails to understand is that people don't really go to the polls for gun control. People who support his agenda generally don't get all that riled up over it.

On the other hand, people do get riled up and go to the polls for gun rights. Colorado is a good example. Not as many folks as I'd like to see, but still enough as it is.
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Tom: Bloomberg will spend most of it on social media, grassroots and astrotruf.

He will himself seed and bundle OPM (other people's money) for purple/swing districts.

This could make a difference in certain contests, especially state legislature level, and before those contests, on legislation if the rep voting his way has some margin but is not safe.

50 million from one individual on a issue is actually a lot of money and it brings other money. I agree gun owners are motivated but I also think we are underestimating Bloomberg somewhat
 
I agree gun owners are motivated but I also think we are underestimating Bloomberg somewhat
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There are two kinds of pressure, though. One is big money from a guy from New York. The other is from the local constituents, who can keep me in office or vote me out.

If we want to be really nasty, we can point out to waffling politicians just how Bloomberg threw Guiron and Morse under the bus in Colorado.
 
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