Best "Small" CZ

Which compact CZ 75 do you reccomend

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I've also noticed that not all CZ P-01s seem to have the NATO stock number on the frame whereas mine does.
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I understand that CZ upgraded a spring somewhere, which means the NSN cannot be used. Your pistol is improved, but you lack NATO's hallmark. No good deed goes unpunished.

Weren't you recently pondering a P-01 vs a Sphinx? You obviously got the P-01. Is it Cajunized yet? How do you like it?
 
CZ also announced a CZ-75B Compact in .40 -- and Pro-Mag made the mags -- but that gun never made it across the pond form Europe, if it was ever produced.

During the great hi-cap magazine drought during the Clinton years, the Pro-Mag CZ-75B Compact mags in .40 kept those of us with 9mm compacts CZs happy -- as those .40 mags worked beautifully with 9mm rounds, had a higher capacity than the 10-round factory mags (14 rounds? -- maybe 13, it's been a while, I don't have a compact CZ now, and I don't remember) , and cost a lot less. And unlike some Pro-Mags, these mags worked beautifully.
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Nice tip about low cap compact .40 S&W mags fitting the 9 Luger Compact. In case our pseudoscience-driven oligarchy imposes mag cap limits again, do you think the compact P-06 mags would fit the steel- and aluminum-framed 9 Luger compacts?

I've seen an occasional used 75 Compact chambered in .40. They are steel-framed, equipped with a safety, and railed. I haven't seen one since I got my fourth steel-framed, safety-equipped compact (two 83s, an 82, and the 75 Compact), but if I happened to stumble on one, I would start sweating and shaking to try to avoid buying it.
 
Limnophile said:
... do you think the compact P-06 mags would fit the steel- and aluminum-framed 9 Luger compacts?
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I'm sure they'll fit, but don't know if they'll feed. When I last had both a 9mm and .40 CZ at the same time, the .40 mag's feed lips were too wide to retain the 9mm round. I was pleasantly surprised to try the Pro-Mags "compact .40 mags" and find that they worked!! I'm also not sure whether a Pro-Mag .40 compact mag will work properly in a CZ .40 compact, but I suspect they will. Someone on the CZ Forum would surely know. http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?board=74.0 Even if the P-06 mags would work in a compact CZ, they'd probably cost twice as much as Pro-Mags, and I'd with Pro-Mags.

I've had two .40 CZ: a 40B and 75B. I regret selling the 40B. I wasn't a big .40 fan when I had them but more so, now. I never had a "compact" .40 based on the 75B frame.

When CZ first introduced some .40 compacts a number of years back, they had a lot of problems with the .40 mags for the new .40 compacts. I quit participating on the CZ Forum about that time and don't know how/whether that was worked out. (Having a viable, less expensive option would be good.)​

Note: The CZ-40B was considered a compact model, but was actually bigger; the CZ-40B Mag was actually a full-size .40 mag with a different base plate; it would FIT (lock in place) in a compact CZ. The CZ-40P, which was a P-01 frame mated to a 40B slide, also used a full-size .40 mag with a spacer and base plate (to fill the grip.)

Be wary of EAA/Tanfoglio compact mags: their grips are shorter than CZs and the mags are shorter than the CZ compact mags; they won't lock into place.
 
Limnophile said:
I understand that CZ upgraded a spring somewhere, which means the NSN cannot be used. Your pistol is improved, but you lack NATO's hallmark. No good deed goes unpunished.



Weren't you recently pondering a P-01 vs a Sphinx? You obviously got the P-01. Is it Cajunized yet? How do you like it?
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Stay tuned for more info. I should have a thread at the end of this weekend.
 
I've also noticed that not all CZ P-01s seem to have the NATO stock number on the frame whereas mine does.
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My P-01 was produced before the NSN number was being imprinted. Still my favorite 9mm CZ and one of the two 9mms that I kept when I thinned the herd several years back.

I also have the CZ 75 Compact .40 and the ProMag mags are interchangable between it and the P-01. Shame the ProMags are no longer made as they were one of the few reliable ProMags you could get. I think I have about 10 of them in my collection. The feeding issue with the early CZ 75 Compact .40 was more an issue with the feed ramp design. It is/was quite fixable by the CZ gunsmiths.

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P 01 or P 06-- choos e your poison.. the rami is sub compact and too small for my hands--LOve the P-01/06-- amazingly accurate for us to shoot-- such little recoil experienced especially with the P -06
 
The PCR is just a gem. I bought mine new in 2000, and still carry it. It is branded as a "CZ-75D", but has the "Mod. PCR" nomenclature in front of the ejection port.
 
Comparing the RAMI vs the HK P2000SK, Steyr S9-A1, & Ruger SR9C:

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RAMI with peers:

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Limnophile said:
I never thought to ask, but what does "PCR" denote?
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It was a gun originally developed for the Police of the Czech Republic. I've never been able to find out just WHEN the guns were first developed and produced, but I suspect it was around the time of the fall of the Soviet Union.

The Czech military and Warsaw Pact military (except for some special operations units), never used CZ-75s. The Warsaw pact militaries had to conform to and use the ammunition used elsewhere in the Pact. The 9x19 round was NEVER a standard military round behind the Eastern Bloc.

The earliest versions of the PCR developed for the police (and not sold to the commercial market) had some frame problems. If I remember correctly, they changed the alloy and these and other alloy compacts have been essentially flawless ever since.

I continue to wonder why CZ has never introduced a full-sized alloy gun. And while I believe that CZ hammer-fired steel, alloy, and polymer-framed guns to be available for years to come, I expect them to shift their focus to polymer-framed striker-fired guns in the future.
 
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Actually I like the looks of the full dust cover on the P-01 better than the PCR/75D compact. I don't think the single cut rail is too offensive to those who don't want or need a rail. I think the RAMI is a nice gun but it offers no benefit over the compact 75's. Now if they made it ever so slightly smaller and thinner and smoothed out the angular shapes to make it pocketable it would be a different story.
 
I came very close to getting a Rami a while back. It was a very nice, very solid gun. Handle one yourself if you can. I think it will impress.
 
The Rami is a great gun. But, too chunky for my tastes.....and too heavy for the size (again, for my tastes). The PCR is the one I'd go for (or, failing that, the regular 75D compact). The PCR makes me all weak inside - don't know why I've never pursued getting one.

Might have to rectify that problem.
 
wpsdlrg said:
The Rami is a great gun. But, too chunky for my tastes.....and too heavy for the size (again, for my tastes). The PCR is the one I'd go for (or, failing that, the regular 75D compact).
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I have both the RAMI and the PCR, and I agree with this entirely. The RAMI is one of the best subcompact shooters out there, but it's also just the slightest bit too thick for me to carry comfortably. It's been replaced by the PCR in my carry rotation.
 
I've carried a .40 RAMI since they've been available. Added the Pearce magazine extension just to get a better grip on it and it rides in a Galco Yaqui Slide belt holster. One of my favorite carry setups.

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Het,JimmyR,
I with you on the safety thing. I think the cz75 D compact is a P-01? But anyway the P-01 is a great gun. It just has a fatter dust cover with the rail on it. I myself don't like a rail on any gun. My first CZ was the full size 75BD so I wanted the PCR next. But I could not get it or a P-01 at the time so I got the 75,compact. If I did not have the 2 of them now(75compact & P-01) I would get the PCR. Its just like the P-01 without the rail on the dust cover. Just like a smaller 75BD. I now have 6 CZ'S & yes the big boy the 97b. They did not have the 97BD then. I would love to have that!
 
I love all these suggestions. It's funny how the PCR is leading the voting, and I found someone quasi-locally (2 hours away but in state) with a PCR for sale at $425 with 2 mags. I'm scaping cash together as we speak...
 
I have a CZ compact with the decoker LOVE IT :) :) :) :) if you like how you're 75BD shoots it feels the same it's a little very little more snappy
 
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