Best Home Defense Shotty?

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As for "short-stroking" a pump gun...... that sounds like a software problem, as opposed to a hardware problem ....... operator head space and timing, as it were ..... an entirely user level fix, to be sure!
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It's always operator error. I've done it myself while hunting and shooting trap attempting to get a second shot. It happens even with lots of practice. You just get in a hurry and don't run the forearm all the way to the front. When you find out you've short stroked the gun, it's too late. While it may be "an entirely user level fix," when you're using the gun under pressure, things happen. The problem can be avoided completely with a high quality semi-auto.

I have an FN SLP and wouldn't trade it for any pump shotgun you can show me - including a Benelli or the FN pump. Today, good semi-autos just run with all kinds of loads, mixed loads, dirty, etc. They work really well and you cannot accidently short stroke them.
 
I have a Remington 870 Express and I have never short stroked it, even though I am a shotgun klutz of the 1st degree, and that includes shooting doubles for skeet. Still, I agree with Buckhorn that a good quality, not a low end and it doesn't have to be a top end, Semi Automatic may be the more dependable choice for home defense.
 
I some what agree. They had some issuse with it when it first came out and as I said I had a problem with mine but they fixed it and it runs like a Swiss watch now. They have corrected problems and made improvments with the newest production but anyone who gets one should run it hard until they are satisfied that it is what they need. I am no Keltech fan and don't like their pistols or anything else they make but the design of the KSG is perfect,IMO,for a HD shotgun. I think in time other companies will copy it and make improvments to the design but for now I have one that works good others experiance may vary.:rolleyes:
 
I have no experience with the KSG and the only Keltec that I own is a P3AT for pocket carry which has been reliable and no problems with it. It is probably 10 years old. Clearly, this particular KSG has too many issues to be used as a home defense shotgun. I think they will get it sorted out eventually, or someone else will. I do like the concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVii2K1j5k
 
The problem in that video is the same problem I had. I sent it back to Keltec and when it came back it runs smooth as silk with O hickups. When I called them with the description of the problem they said they knew exactly what was going on and that they had corrected the problem in new production.
 
Semis

I have three semi auto 12 gauge shotguns. Each has been used for Trap, Skeet, upland hunting. Each has proven reliable.
Two were bought used: Franchi AL48, Winchester model 59 (shot a 25 straight with it at Trap).
One I bought new - a Stoeger 2000. Never a problem.
All were less than $500 (actually, they were all less than $400)
Pete
 
A simple check of the Urban Dictionary : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shotty shows that the term "shotty" is used in the drug culture in several different ways. Frankly, I have a hard time believing that The Firing Line isn't the butt of a somewhat inside joke here - a joke which I find not to be the least bit amusing.
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OP probably got the message about using the term 'shotty' on the first page of thread and has been reminded at least one time every page since.
 
shortwave, It is one thing to "remind" OP of the silliness of Shotty. It is quite another to make it clear that shotty is slang for a blunt or joint, "A variation of the bong native to SouthWest England, where a straight tube is used instead of a conventional "gauze type" bong tube, or, A bong done in one large toke that fills the entire chamber with smoke then pulls the burning mix/cannabis down the pipe and into the water. As this happens the continued inhalation and release in pressure draws the smoke up into the lungs at speed - resulting in an intense high." And that was the reason for my post. Now just where before my post did any other forum member make the connection between shorty and illegal drug slang?
 
CurlyQ I would think the OP after learning about the term S#####, would have edited his post to use a different word.

But I have hope that many of the newer shooters will learn with age and move to guns that are better suited to hunting game and not people.
 
The word shotty can mean a variety of things depending on where your at and topic being discussed. But Thanks for the 'Urban' definition.

Enough with "Shottie" ( 1 2 3 )
Dreaming100Straight
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^ A closed thread worth reading. ^
 
jaguarxk120 said:
CurlyQ I would think the OP after learning about the term S#####, would have edited his post to use a different word.
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Oh, I doubt he stuck around long enough to make many edits after how he was treated...

And yes, there's a variety of words that have several meanings, particular when crossing the giant pond. I don't see the point.

Why can't we just answer a guy's question without always getting bent out of shape over semantics?

Oh, and shottieshottieshottie.
 
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