Best Grain for 9mm rounds

Well now I can't speak as to their stopping power of the 90g XTP's I have been loading up at +P levels but, I can say that they are unbelievably accurate at close range all the way out to 75 feet.

I will be testing some next week to see how well they hold up when fired into wet newspaper in jugs.
 
I like the mid range 124-127gr. bullets in +P or +P+ configuration. Winchester Ranger, Gold Dots, Federal HST are all very effective street proven rounds. I usually carry the Winchester Ranger 127gr. +P+ rounds. They have a great reputation on the street. Actually have some of the 147gr. Ranger bonded ammo. The 147gr. HST is supposed to be a super round also. Wouldn't feel underarmed with these 147gr. 9mm loads. Getting high marks in th streets also. Much better than the early 147gr. loads. I have the 115gr. +P+ Gold Dots and Winchester Ranger ammo. They worked great for several LEO groups. I just think the mid weights are the best balance of penetration and performance.
 
I don't cc a 9mm but have a few full size. I keep a Beretta 92f for one of my house guns and it's stoked with 124grn +P Speer Gold Dots.

I'm partial to either the 124grn - 127grn in the +P.

Rampant_Colt provides a nice starting list of proven 9mm SD ammo.

It may be an expensive suggestion, but you may want to sample a few of these different rds. to see what best cycles in your pistol. Also, what you shoot most accurate when shooting in a SD platform. I.E.- Double tapping, shooting one handed-off handed, night shooting(some ammo flashs more than others out of diff. length bbl's) etc.
 
9MM round

At the present My only 9mm is My CCW Kahr PM9 and for carry I also use the Speer Gold Dot 124+P for plinking it's sort of like anything down the pipe . WVleo
 
I prefer 147gr cast lead flat point bullets with Green Dot or Power Pistol powder behind them for punching paper in the tightest groups possible if that is your goal.

I don't buy in to these hyped up, high priced, super duper, buffalo killing bullets.:rolleyes:
 
Some people's goal for bullets is the most destruction to tissue or gelatin or most penetration, mine is shooting the tightest and most accurate groups and finding the best powder combo trying to out shoot my buddies at a distance of 25 yards at the range. I find that a lot more fun.
 
Self Defense

Generally speaking, 147-gr. HP's work best in the 9mm across the board and has been perfected the last 5 -8 years like no other handgun bullet.

Federal HST 147-gr. (P9HST4 +P at 1,050 FPS or P9HST2 Standard Pressure at 1,000 FPS) is outstanding! So is Winchester's Ranger T (RA9T) in 147-gr.! My user name kind of gives away my fondness for the 147 Grain round in 9mm - both HP for self defense and ball at the range.

Range Practice Time

I prefer 147-gr. ball for practice at the range as it has the same POI as HP's. Keep in mind that lighter weight ball ammo shoots lower on the target (when compared to 147-gr.). The slower 147-gr. bullet is in the barrel longer and subject to MORE upward recoil than the faster lighter-weight bullets.

Compared to 147-gr., 115-gr. FMJ will shoot about 4" lower and 124-gr. about 2" lower.
 
Search much?

Start.

Yep, I guess that any member who just joined in the last year or two or three can just come here to read. Why both posting anything? I'm sure it's already been discussed. Let's just turn it into a read only forum. Why not? The guys that have been here beating the horse that is now dead are bored with topics new to our newest members.

I have a suggestion to the bored oldtimers here.
Don't bother reading these posts!
Simple!
Don't feel compelled to toss out your snide remarks.
Move on and leave the dead horse to others who may actually like to discuss their own views on a long, old, dead topic.

How about this? You bored guys come up with a new topic never discussed before. Then you can contribute something more than "use the search function".

Geez, give me a break.
 
orionengnr: Search much? Start.
Ammo development changes from week to week, i.e., it's dynamic, so old posts concerning ammo are not a good way to go for new info.
The OP was right is asking for current opinions.

I've been negligent (unintentionally rude) on my own posts, so I can't judge orionengnr. But I now realize old timers should welcome newbies without undue criticism.

I carry 147 grain 9mms in my carry gun, a Walther PPS. For some reason, the 147s shoot low in my PPS, but almost exactly as low as 115 grainers. :confused:
I had expected the heavier bullets to shoot higher, but they don't. Perhaps it's because I don't shoot past 50 feet.

I like heavier bullets in 9mm because they are more likely to penetrate & break bones. If you can shatter arm bones, you can disable an attacker.
 
I agree with the heavy for caliber bullets like the 9mm 147-gr. providing needed extra penetration through extremities or bones before reaching the vitals. Almost all testing through various media shows a pattern of heavier bullets outperforming their lightweight counterparts across all caliber lines. While middleweight bonded bullets are coming around, heavyweight bonded projectiles still (usually) outperform them.

The FBI uses common sense when it says that 62% of the time in OIC's, a bullet must pass through an arm / leg, or penetrate at an odd angle before reaching the vitals. This is why their minimum standard of 12" is in effect. They also teach to aim a little higher than many PD's (used to) do because there are more significant vital areas between the armpits and above than below that area. More than 1/2 of OIC's are at odd angles where the bullet travels a longer distance than civilians imagine.

When someone's life is on the line, immediately stopping the threat is paramount! BG's usually expire more quickly with higher center-mass hits than the older adage of around the bottom of the ribs / sternum (like the old-style targets encouraged you to aim for). Notice that in the past decade, range targets have raised their center ring about 3" higher than it used to be.

A couple of bullets placed dead-center (or a tad to the right) between the armpits can be your best friend when your life is on the line. Self defense priorities should include:

1. Shot Placement
2. Bullet Construction / Weight
3. Caliber
 
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I load up all my SD/HD ammo to my spec and to what my pistols want to shoot. I keep 147gr XTP's in my Sigma and PF-9 in the winter months and 124gr XTP's during the warmer months.

Don't bother with anything lighter than 124gr. I practice a lot with my SD/HD ammo but also keep the same loads in FMJ For those weekends when I shoot much more than I should. :)
 
127 gr Win Rangers for SD, bulk ordered 115 or 124 for plinking.

Not quite convinced that 147s have come around yet in 9mm, they certainly weren't the best in the early days......
 
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