Hmm. You could have cleared up any confusion immediately rather than changing the subject instead.The Verminator said:Where in the world did I ever say that " there were good studies out there showing that caliber choice makes a significant difference in the outcome of real-world gunfights." (?)
That aside, it seemed reasonable to assume that when you said: "There are plenty of good studies around that give us good information." they were studies about caliber choice for self-defense since that's the topic of the thread. But misunderstandings can happen. What are the studies you referred to and what are they studying?
In the service pistol performance range, the similarities are a lot more pronounced than the differences.Frank Etttin said:But if your assailant is not thus inclined to give up, Ellifitz at least suggests that certain cartridges are more likely to yield a better outcome than others.
Looking at failures (presumably these are determined attackers), the service pistol rounds are all within 1% of each other with the exception of .357Mag being a little better and .38Spl being a little worse.
It's interesting to see that the .357 and .45 data shows noticeably better accuracy than the other service pistol calibers (presumably because they are calibers more likely to be chosen by experienced shooters) and yet that doesn't seem to yield significantly better outcomes overall. That is, no matter which statistic one chooses, there's at least one other member of the service pistol performance class that equals or outperforms them when comparing that statistic.
For example, looking at the .45ACP which easily had the best accuracy figures of the service pistol cartridges at 85% hits, we see that the .38Spl equals it for fatal hits and bests it for average number of rounds until incapacitation, 9mm and .40S&W best it for % of people who were not incapacitated, and .38Spl and .40S&W best it for one shot stop percentages. So even though it appears that the .45ACP shooters were better, on average, even that wasn't sufficient to put the .45ACP decisively out in front in the other categories as one might expect.