Being a Range Bully?

Range safety might be everyone's business but he wasn't doing anything unsafe. Yes, high brass 5's are over kill and yes he only needs one round but come on. Never seen a pump gun less safe because it had rounds in the mag and see no safety issues with the number 5's. It's like tellin someone to put on a seatbelt in the car next to you at a red light.

LK
 
Range safety might be everyone's business but he wasn't doing anything unsafe. Yes, high brass 5's are over kill and yes he only needs one round but come on. Never seen a pump gun less safe because it had rounds in the mag and see no safety issues with the number 5's. It's like tellin someone to put on a seatbelt in the car next to you at a red light.
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Yes he was acting unsafe on both points
This wasn't at some tactical range, it was at a shotgun club where clay targets are thrown. NO more than two rounds is universal -period. And shot larger than the 7.5 maximum has gotten many a club shut down over the years.

It sounds like you do not shoot clay targets at regular clubs.
 
Unless its a safety issue I am not going to say anything unless asked. If it is a safety issue I will:
1) move anyone in may party of the way; and
2) get an RO.

Its their job to intervene. They have the authority to do so.
 
If it is a safety issue I will:
1) move anyone in may party of the way; and
2) get an RO.

Its their job to intervene. They have the authority to do so.
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It seems you've not spent much time at an organized range -- everyone has the authority (and responsibility) to stop an unsafe condition. There's a universal range rule: Anyone can call cease fire. It you're just going to walk away from a safety violation, then you're part of the problem.
 
I love going to the range, but I hate putting my life in danger. "man going down field" should be a universal term and understood everywhere.
 
Shooting #5 instead of #7.5 is unsafe?

Having more than one round in a gun at a time is unsafe?

What universe do you live in? Stupid rules like that do nothing to make shooting safer and only serve to make shooters discount REAL safety rules.

I wouldn't belong to a range with such ignorant rules in the first place. I imagine that if some stranger complained about such piddly violations to me I'd tell him to get screwed and mind his own business.

Nancy boy Fudd rules and busy bodies take ALOT of the enjoyment out of shooting and remove much of the value of range sessions for those of us who train to do more than punch holes in paper.
 
^^^ I hope this is a joke^^^

Otherwise, you need a lot of education before you get anymore trigger time. Do you honestly not understand the reasoning behind the basic rules?
 
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If it is a safety issue I will:
1) move anyone in may party of the way; and
2) get an RO.

Its their job to intervene. They have the authority to do so.

It seems you've not spent much time at an organized range -- everyone has the authority (and responsibility) to stop an unsafe condition. There's a universal range rule: Anyone can call cease fire. It you're just going to walk away from a safety violation, then you're part of the problem.
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Only about 35 years. ;)

I look at it this way. If its a minor issue the RO can handle it (as they are very firm at the range I am currently at). If its a major issue I'm getting family out of the way and could give a &^%*% about anyone else until they are safe (actually thats SOP all the time for me).
 
I wouldn't belong to a range with such ignorant rules in the first place. I imagine that if some stranger complained about such piddly violations to me I'd tell him to get screwed and mind his own business.
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This is why I would get an RO unless there is a major issue. Whether or not I agree or disagree with the point, I'm not getting into a verbal altercation on a range around lots of guns and potential Yayhoos (not saying the poster is a Yayhoo). People who are already experienced in the rules at a particular range don't need to be told. Poeple that do are either new in which case the RO is better, or new AND Yayhoos in which case the RO is definitely better as they may need to be thrown out.
 
The first time I was shooting trap I didn't know the "one in the gun" rule so I was guilty of this as well. Granted it was my first time. I was told it was not allowed and I didn't do it again. No harm no foul.
 
OK, I will admit to never shooting trap. I don't have much use for shotguns and only have a few in my collection. I have shot skeet and sporting clays on several occasions and couldn't understand how you could shoot multiple clays without having more than one shell in the gun.

After a quick google search I saw that trap shooting involves shooting just one clay at a time, and "double trap" is a separate sport.

I still think that neither rules violation constitutes a safety hazard.
 
(Not a trap shooter either).
Not certain about the deal with one round at a time (not seen a single shot shotgun since I was a kid so defintiely not familiar) but the shot size issue I can see.

If you think the more extreme "bird shot" vs. "people shot" you may get a better perspective on some of the potential ballistics (I think).
 
Obviously, you are quoting rules that you haven't read. The rule is: One shell at a time except when shooting doubles. It doesn't seem that complicated.
 
Range safety might be everyone's business but he wasn't doing anything unsafe. Yes, high brass 5's are over kill and yes he only needs one round but come on. Never seen a pump gun less safe because it had rounds in the mag and see no safety issues with the number 5's. It's like tellin someone to put on a seatbelt in the car next to you at a red light.

LK
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As pointed out, this is a universal trap rule. they are also posted rules of the club. Finally, on a prior occasion staff asked me to let them know if I saw someone loading their magazine. As there was none within earshot I pointed out the rule to the gentleman. Other shooters frequently point out the one round rule to other shooters. If one doesn't want to follow the posted rules of the club, they shouldn't shoot there.
 
Unless its a safety issue I am not going to say anything unless asked. If it is a safety issue I will:
1) move anyone in may party of the way; and
2) get an RO.

Its their job to intervene. They have the authority to do so.
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So I am supposed to stop shooting, go to the office, and rat some guy out who may merely need to be informed of the rule. If the guys were jerks, I may do that but what is wrong with simply informing them of the rule and the reasons for it. For example, in the instance with the guys shooting high brass I pointed out the limited shot fall zone.
 
everyone has the authority (and responsibility) to stop an unsafe condition. There's a universal range rule: Anyone can call cease fire. It you're just going to walk away from a safety violation, then you're part of the problem.
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Like Zippy said. The RO has also asked me to act if I see any safety violations. Specifically when I didn't point out a guy loading multiple rounds into the tube of his pump.
 
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Unless its a safety issue I am not going to say anything unless asked. If it is a safety issue I will:
1) move anyone in may party of the way; and
2) get an RO.

Its their job to intervene. They have the authority to do so.

So I am supposed to stop shooting, go to the office, and rat some guy out who may merely need to be informed of the rule. If the guys were jerks, I may do that but what is wrong with simply informing them of the rule and the reasons for it. For example, in the instance with the guys shooting high brass I pointed out the limited shot fall zone.
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*What office? You don't have an RO on the line? If not then the statement doesn't apply to you now does it.
*I'm not into getting into an argument with someone when everyone has firearms in their hands.
 
Like Zippy said. The RO has also asked me to act if I see any safety violations. Sspecifically when I didn't point out a guy loading multiple rounds into the tube of his pump.
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Thats a specific situation. As are ranges where there are no ROs. I don't have a problem with that.
 
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Thats a specific situation. As are ranges where there are no ROs.
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You seem to be confusing zombie-warrior fantasy game ranges with clubs where the object is to shoot clay targets. There are not typically any RO's working every field, merely someone pulling and keeping score - that person may act and have the power of an RO when warranted, but most are young kids trying to make a buck - hence the RULES that slob shooters seem to think do not apply to them.
 
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