Bayonet on a 500/590?
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chickenman
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I'm sure you will say that when your holding a shotgun in the trenches wishing you had a few more shots. 
Brilliant statement.
Brilliant statement.Sigh....
Here we go again.
A bayonet on a shotgun is good for giggles, and not much more.
Try this, those that think otherwise....
Zero your shotgun with the slug of choice. Of course, you should have already have done this, but you may have been too busy taking pictures and posting them on the Net.
Affix bayonet and use it as bayonets are meant to be used. Say, pitchfork a hay bale a couple times while screaming loudly as you can. Few bayonets ever get used as weapons without major adrenaline surge.
Recheck zero. Cuss.
Shotgun barrels, even the 590s', are made from rather thin steel.
Those of us old enough to recall Nam may also recall the flap when GIs used the early M16s with bayonets and found their zeros had gone to Heck. The needle like barrel on the first M16s is much,much stiffer than all shotgun barrels.
Slomo pics of shotguns being fired reveal the barrels waving like wheat in a windy field when fired.
Bayonets on shotguns are cosmetic only.
Here we go again.
A bayonet on a shotgun is good for giggles, and not much more.
Try this, those that think otherwise....
Zero your shotgun with the slug of choice. Of course, you should have already have done this, but you may have been too busy taking pictures and posting them on the Net.
Affix bayonet and use it as bayonets are meant to be used. Say, pitchfork a hay bale a couple times while screaming loudly as you can. Few bayonets ever get used as weapons without major adrenaline surge.
Recheck zero. Cuss.
Shotgun barrels, even the 590s', are made from rather thin steel.
Those of us old enough to recall Nam may also recall the flap when GIs used the early M16s with bayonets and found their zeros had gone to Heck. The needle like barrel on the first M16s is much,much stiffer than all shotgun barrels.
Slomo pics of shotguns being fired reveal the barrels waving like wheat in a windy field when fired.
Bayonets on shotguns are cosmetic only.
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
You can get an 8+1 590. I have considered the purchase. If those 9 rounds of 32 pellet 00buch don't do the job they can have me. If someone closes unexpectedly they will probably be at my rear or side. In that case a bayonet seems unlikely to be much use and slapping them sill w/ the but stock seems like a better plan. You can get prety good leverage if you are holding the gun to fire and snap the butt stock into someones face correctly.
Last time I was in Spencers at the mall I saw all the items necessary for your conversion
I couldn't resist.
Last time I was in Spencers at the mall I saw all the items necessary for your conversion
I couldn't resist.Mossberg made an 8 shot, 20", parkerized and oiled stocked M500 that took a regular M-16 bayonet. Late 70's/early 80's. We sold lots of 'em in the shop I worked in then.
"...impression that bayonets were illegal period..." Nope. Having a bayonet lug on a rifle is one of the evil "assualt rifle" thingy's in some places though.
"...impression that bayonets were illegal period..." Nope. Having a bayonet lug on a rifle is one of the evil "assualt rifle" thingy's in some places though.
One use I found for a bayonet was back during the first gulf war when we had EPWs around. You are dealing with people (I use the term "people" here rather loosely...freakin' savages!:barf that are used to having guns shoved in their faces. However, when you fix a bayonet, they become very compliant very quickly. They have no idea how to react to it. Never had to actually use it but the psycological impact was huge.
that are used to having guns shoved in their faces. However, when you fix a bayonet, they become very compliant very quickly. They have no idea how to react to it. Never had to actually use it but the psycological impact was huge.Shot Gun Breaching Device ?? SWAT TECH.??
I saw 2 new Rem. 870's, short and black of course , one 20 ga. one 12 ga. . this weekend at a gunshop here in New England . A device like the photo on a previous post , screwed into threads were choke tubes would normally go. The dealer stated , it was the newest concept in home defense shot guns. It appeared to be very robust, my comment was , "if I was defending , why would I want to break out ? " The answer was a shrug and statement , " the salesman said it was the latest SWAT thing." I droped the conversation right there..... Any one have any comments???
I saw 2 new Rem. 870's, short and black of course , one 20 ga. one 12 ga. . this weekend at a gunshop here in New England . A device like the photo on a previous post , screwed into threads were choke tubes would normally go. The dealer stated , it was the newest concept in home defense shot guns. It appeared to be very robust, my comment was , "if I was defending , why would I want to break out ? " The answer was a shrug and statement , " the salesman said it was the latest SWAT thing." I droped the conversation right there..... Any one have any comments???
HD- as in HOME Defense... (?)
A feller buys a HD shotgun for his own home. More often than not, I'd say that's a fair and common occurance.
A breeching device gizmo... OK.
Wait a minute...
Guy wants or figgers he'll have the need to breech his own home with a shotgun at some point?
My coffee is cold and I'm almost out of snuff- I gotta go think on these things a while.
A feller buys a HD shotgun for his own home. More often than not, I'd say that's a fair and common occurance.
A breeching device gizmo... OK.
Wait a minute...
Guy wants or figgers he'll have the need to breech his own home with a shotgun at some point?
My coffee is cold and I'm almost out of snuff- I gotta go think on these things a while.
seeker_two
New member
Think about all the uses one could find for a sharp steel thing to poke stuff with...
Bayonets were used on military shotguns in WWI & WWII. They looked mighty fierce, with that L O N G bayonet & 20" bbl. Probably not the most practical for HD if you have narrow corridors.
OTOH, I really enjoyed bayonet drills while in the service. Stab, slash, butt stroke...it's all good. Beats the heck out of harsh language if you are out of ammo or the goblin gets up close & personal.
The Mossberg 590 with bayonet still seems a bit long for HD. Ideally, I think a 14" bbl and the M7 bayonet would be the way to go. Of course, you get to pay $200 for the privilege of owning a SBS, not something I am willing to do.
I have no doubt the bayonet would play havoc with a slug's zero, as does the bbl/mag extension clamp. I wonder if the effect is even noticeable at HD ranges? Another question is the effect of the shot pattern at HD ranges.
So, I won't laugh at the notion. Wiser men than I have thought it perfectly reasonable for their application.
OTOH, I really enjoyed bayonet drills while in the service. Stab, slash, butt stroke...it's all good. Beats the heck out of harsh language if you are out of ammo or the goblin gets up close & personal.
The Mossberg 590 with bayonet still seems a bit long for HD. Ideally, I think a 14" bbl and the M7 bayonet would be the way to go. Of course, you get to pay $200 for the privilege of owning a SBS, not something I am willing to do.
I have no doubt the bayonet would play havoc with a slug's zero, as does the bbl/mag extension clamp. I wonder if the effect is even noticeable at HD ranges? Another question is the effect of the shot pattern at HD ranges.
So, I won't laugh at the notion. Wiser men than I have thought it perfectly reasonable for their application.
Gunfighter123
New member
It's your shotgun and your money ----- If that is what "trips your trigger" , by God, go for it !!!!!!!
onthejon55
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well im sure the zombies are going to be cowering in fear if u ever pull that out during the apocalypse because thats the only time it will ever become useful
New_Pollution1086
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I still dont see the point.
unless we were in trench warfare.
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unless we were in trench warfare.
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johnwilliamson062
Moderator
If you have a PG it makes sense to me, but on a regular stock? Everyone at the MNoA convention will think you are an usher if you have a bayo on a full stock.