Battle of the Budget 9mm's

"...what's the trigger like?..." Factory triggers are irrelevant. ALL new firearms require a trigger job due to frivolous law suits.
The only thing that matters is how well any handgun fits his hand. Go with him while he tries a bunch on for size. Changing grips can usually fix 'too small', but nothing fixes 'too big'.
Tell him to think about the cost of extra mags too. A mag for that giant Walther PPS 9mm runs $40 at Midway. $24.99 for a Glock 17/34.
Also, 'used' is not a cuss word when it comes to firearms. Takes a lot of abuse to damage a modern pistol. Sometimes you can get a used higher end pistol for the same kind of money as BNIB a lower end piece.
Canik's are imported by Century Arms from Turkey. RUN, do not walk, from any firearm Century had anything to do with.
 
My thing is this... If you cant afford to buy a $600+ gun or around there, you probably should wait until you can afford to buy it.. Dont settle, when saving a little bit more will give you a much better result. Look at other options such as used guns and things of that nature, that might help him get a better quality gun for something still closer to his budget. Just because they're used, doesnt mean they're not good.
 
Used is the only way to go in the sub $350 arena. I recently saw a Ruger sr9c going for $349. Glocks can commonly be found in this price range. Guns that normally cost $400 - $450 can be found in this arena as well. Springfield xds, m&ps, and 2022s just to name a few.

The Turkish guns are definitely made well, but I wonder for how long and also worry about spare parts. The Stoeger Cougar being the only exception.
 
Honestly tell him to save up to the $450 to $550 range and things will really open up for him. He will be able to pick a pistol that will work for him instead of shoe horning himself into a platform to meet a $$$ figure.
 
My thing is this... If you cant afford to buy a $600+ gun or around there, you probably should wait until you can afford to buy it.. Dont settle, when saving a little bit more will give you a much better result. Look at other options such as used guns and things of that nature, that might help him get a better quality gun for something still closer to his budget. Just because they're used, doesnt mean they're not good.

Spoken like a true gun snob. You say "Just because they're used, doesn't mean they're not good." I say "Just because they're cheap, doesn't mean they're not good." I have only bought 7 handguns ranging from $125 (Hi-Point) to just under $500 (RIA 1911 Tactical). I traded the Hi-Point for a old but nice Taurus 38 special revolver. My "cheap" guns have been reliable and accurate (some more than others). My SD9VE has been very reliable but not as accurate as my Ruger Mk III Target or RIA 1911 Tactical ( I think it is operator error because of the weight difference of the guns). They are both very accurate as well as reliable.
 
leadcounsel pretty much nailed it. Post #7

I purchased the B6P on a whim about a month ago for $200. I have shot, owned, and do own many 9mm handguns. I have never been so impressed as I have with the SAR.

For me, this may be the perfect handgun. It has excellent ergos, fantastic trigger & is beautifully built. I have fired a 1000 rds of varying brands through it without even a flicker of a problem.

In my neck of the woods, they're $279 NIB at my local LGS. That is a STEAL for this handgun.
 
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I think you can get more bang for your buck if you shop around a little.

Full size M&P 9s are going for $399 online, and the SD9 is $269.
 
I think suggesting a different Taurus might be in order here...the 24/7 Pro C.

Here's the latest version, courtesy of Taurus
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Compact, yet holds 17 rounds per mag.
Quite good for carry or home defense.
Currently my Wifey has two...one blued, one pink...
she's carried the blued Gen 1 for 7 years, just got the pink two days ago :)

Should easily be able to find a Gen 1 in the $300 range.
About a hundred more gets you a G2 ;)
 
My daughter has a Taurus PT111 G2. Had a few feeding issues when we first got it, buy once broken in runs great. Have shot the Canik and it was a good shooter, just ignore the decocker. The Canik is on my list for future purchase.

I have tried the Ruger SR9 and didn't like it at all. The S&W SD9VE, I can't give an opinion, have a bad taste from the old Sigma's and don't even want to try one.

I retired my Glock 19 this past spring for a Sig P250C. I wouldn't go back.
 
Brando1992

For me at least, it is more comfortable to shoot. It has a better grip angle than the Glock. I have thousands of rounds thru Glocks and they are a good gun, but for me the P250 was just a super easy gun to shoot.

When I started shooting handguns over thirty years ago, the revolver was king, and I learned to shoot with a Ruger Security Six. When I started shooting the P250 it was just like riding a bike, shooting DA. My P250 has a beautiful smooth 5lb trigger, just love it.
 
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Sounds great looks like I need to go out and get my hands on one!

I do love my model 10 my grandfather passed down to me. Sounds like it's probably a similar feeling trigger!
 
Wish he'd been looking a couple months ago, recently traded my B6P with mags and holster for my Taurus PT92. I liked the B6P but just wanted something with a little more mass. I could have concealed my B6P ok, I had an SHTF Gear holster for it. They also make one for the B6P compact.
 
The Caniks and SAR series look promising as a nice budget pistol consideration but around here no one seems to carries them? Are they available only online or are they becoming available at local gun stores? I checked their websites and was not much help.

My LGS is pretty large and they stock the Witness series of handguns but I can recall ever seeing a SAR anything. I will have to double check next time. I have a Cabelas not to far away also.
 
I've got 15,000 rounds through my Canik T-120 (desert sand) without a single misfeed. Not one. I just took third place in my local shooting competition last week with it, competing against some folks with more than $2000 into their guns. I have made zero upgrades or alterations to it. A couple months ago I took it out with some friends and shot it side by side with my friends glock as well as an FN9, a Rock island 1911 9mm, a sig 226, a beretta 92 and an hk. It matched or exceeded all in accuracy. We all unanimously agreed it was the favorite gun of the batch.
I paid $360 for it out the door when I bought it two years ago.
 
A lot of inane comments to ignore. Ignore the following:

Factory triggers are irrelevant. ALL new firearms require a trigger job due to frivolous law suits.
I'm a pretty good judge of a sufficient trigger. Many companies produce factory guns with good-to-excellent triggers. I've purchased several SARs for instance, and the triggers are all consistently good in DA and excellent in SA (1911-like, as I said before; very light and crisp). The statement quotes is pure nonsense snobbery.


The only thing that matters is how well any handgun fits his hand.
Sorry, but again a really dumb statement. Handguns are designed with most adults hands in mind. Marginal folks don't like this or that, but the funny thing is that most people can and do adapt their hand to the gun. Hardly "the only thing that matters..." because in reality is barely matters as long as the gun can be operated properly.

Tell him to think about the cost of extra mags too. A mag for that giant Walther PPS 9mm runs $40 at Midway. $24.99 for a Glock 17/34.
Such a trivial point for a gun purchase and while yes, it is factored in, the difference per magazine is so small it's probably not even worth factoring in at this stage.

Canik's are imported by Century Arms from Turkey. RUN, do not walk, from any firearm Century had anything to do with.
More internet bunk about Century imports. I've had many Century guns and no issues I can attribute to Century. By the way, they simply import a lot of stuff; hard to blame them. And finally, Caniks have a stellar reputation for quality and such. Can you give Century some credit, please?

If you cant afford to buy a $600+ gun or around there, you probably should wait until you can afford to buy it.. Dont settle, when saving a little bit more will give you a much better result.
Apparently this person has not shopped for a gun in awhile. Gun prices are ROCK bottom right now. Not everyone can, nor should, need to drop $600 on a handgun when OUTSTANDING examples are in the $300 range. Not everyone has a lot of money to spend on a gun. I would feel perfectly well suited in self defense using a number of sub $300 handguns currently on the market.

Used is the only way to go in the sub $350 arena.
Poor advice indeed. I just picked up another SAR B6P today, less than $300 total out the door. It's fabulous in build quality, trigger, fit, finish... just an outstanding well-built pistol.

If you were totally ignorant about gun makers and pricing, and laid the SAR B6P ($230 online) or the slightly cosmetically different EAA Polymer 9mm (about $270 online, includes a few upgrades) next to offerings from CZ, Glock, Sig, HK, SW, FN, etc, you'd never be able to tell which gun was more valuable or better designed with much accuracy. In terms of build quality I'd put the SAR darn near the top. It really does feel that good in the hand and the quality is very impressive. Did I mention the chrome barrel, steel guide rod, tight fit and finish...?

Sure you can spend days, weeks, months hemming and hawing, shopping around, kicking tires, wringing hands and wasting time researching endlessly. Or, just take some good advice and buy a B6P. It would be near impossible to lose money on such a purchase if the buyer hated the thing; probably lose less than the cost of a rental. Buy it for $280 total, hate it, then sell it for what, $250? Out what, $30 to try it? And I highly doubt anyone could not like the pistol. It's that good.

But like all things, these likely won't last indefinitely and will dry up and then folks will chime in, "I wish I had gotten one of those when they were so cheap" just like they did with CZ, Savage, SKS, Mosins, and on, and on, and on. They're junk in the eyes of snobs, until the price doubles, then they are the cats meow... lol
Don't miss out on these as they appear to dry up. How can you possibly go wrong for under $300...
 
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