AWB Removed From Base Gun Control Bill in Senate

A friend of mine had a seizure & blacked out. The Dr. put him on some special med's & for safety, invalidated his drivers license for 6 mo.

You can see the comparison I'm making here. Suppose your Dr. prescribed an anti-depressant or other mood drug. Perfect excuse to confiscate your guns & then the burden to prove your ok again is on you. Good luck with that...

Sad days in America...
 
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I friend of mine had a seizure & blacked out. The Dr. put him on some special med's & for safety, invalidated his drivers license for 6 mo.

You can see the comparison I'm making here. Suppose your Dr. prescribed an anti-depressant or other mood drug. Perfect excuse to confiscate your guns & then the burden to prove your ok again is on you. Good luck with that...

Sad days in America...
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We can play "what if" all day long, but the key point is that your friend wasn't involuntarily committed for treatment or declared to be mentally defective by the courts. That's the bar we have right now before someone becomes a "prohibited person", and it's pretty darned high, just as it should be.

We can push for better reporting from the states to the NICS database without wanting everyone who's ever been prescribed Xanax to lose their gun rights.
 
We can play "what if" all day long, but the key point is that your friend wasn't involuntarily committed for treatment or declared to be mentally defective by the courts. That's the bar we have right now before someone becomes a "prohibited person", and it's pretty darned high, just as it should be.
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Actually, the bar is only that high in part of the country. In the First, Second, and Sixth Circuits, even a temporary hearing for observation can cause you to lose your rights. There is a case in the Second Circuit where a man lost his Second Amendment rights forever just on the word of two doctors. No hearing.

S.480 by Senator Graham actually corrects the law so that the high standard you mentioned applies across all of the United States.
 
We can push for better reporting from the states to the NICS database without wanting everyone who's ever been prescribed Xanax to lose their gun rights.


Isn't that a violation of the existing HIPA rules?
 
There are exceptions in HIPAA for reporting things like involuntary commitment, or being adjudged mentally defective. Disclosure on the part of the states is voluntary, not mandatory, and many states update very few records (in some cases, none at all).

Here's an article about the subject, with links to the individual states' laws.
 
Yeah the records totals in NICS are terrifyingly low. Of course the carrot and stick are relatively laughable as well. Barely more than if the state participates the feds pay them back the cost of participating, and if they don't incur the cost by participating, the fed will not reimuburse their zero cost. It's a LITTLE more than that, but not much. If the feds came out and said any TSA funding, FBI lab work, and DHS material grants require a minimum participation thresh hold we'd see a lot more cooperation from the states. No TSA means no airports.
 
The last midterm election the good common sense of the american people rose up and placed a giant pipe wrench in the agenda of our current President. But the question is, do any of you understand, there will be no AWB coming from this congress?

It makes no difference what the Senate does on this issue. I personally hope they vote on it.
 
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