Armed Citizen: Oklahoma Pharmacist Defends Employees from Robbers

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While the video may looking damning it still doesn't show what the bad guy was doing on the floor. Unfortunately there is no sound to go with the video.
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Actually, the motions of the shooter and the forensics evidence gathered at the scene can give a very good idea of what the perp was doing.

As for trying to say to myself "what would I do in the same situation?"; that is a bit hard. I am not sure what I would have done but I sure hope I would have done better than this guy.
 
As for trying to say to myself "what would I do in the same situation?"; that is a bit hard. I am not sure what I would have done but I sure hope I would have done better than this guy.
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I hope that all of us would do better. No one knows what they will do until such time comes and usually it is much different that you thought it would be.
 
I hope that all of us would do better. No one knows what they will do until such time comes and usually it is much different that you thought it would be.
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I am pretty sure my reaction would involve a whole lot less chasing and shooting and a great deal more cowering and pants wetting while throwing whatever drugs over the counter at them that I felt would make them happy. :)
 
I am pretty sure my reaction would involve a whole lot less chasing and shooting and a great deal more cowering and pants wetting while throwing whatever drugs over the counter at them that I felt would make them happy.
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LOL Truth be told, I would guess the reaction of most of us would be the same. I may add some nonsensical babbling in there, just for good effect, but you're definitely close.:D
 
I am a bit of a hard nosed McGruff the crime dog but I have a bit more of the pitbull bloodline in me. I would refuse to give up anything and would try to get a gun involved but from the time I re-enter my place I would know I had several Hi-def cameras running and would not go doing anything like blatant murder in front of them.
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Sounds exactly like what I would expect of a .410 Judge. Now if had just kept the Judge instead of trading it for the low power, weak P3AT he would be in a lot less trouble.
 
Less trouble?

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Sounds exactly like what I would expect of a .410 Judge. Now if had just kept the Judge instead of trading it for the low power, weak P3AT he would be in a lot less trouble.
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Please explain. I don't understand how Mr. Ersland would be in less trouble for killing Mr. Parker if he had used the Judge instead of the P3AT. Dead is dead, and at the range of the final shots, either gun would have done the job throughly.

Lost Sheep
 
Lost, he is implying that the judge would have continued to cause grazing wounds rather than causing death like the .380 did. Me thinks that was the meaning.

Brent
 
From Mr. Ersland's statements as i recall he said that he had fired several times at the robbers so the Judge should have been empty by then. By changing the weapon he evidently wans't going to shoot any more with the Judge so if he had just kept it then he wouldn't have shot any more. In addition I don't have as much faith in the .410 as a "fully" lethal weapon as the .380 but both are lethal. It sure appears to me that he exchanged guns to finish the fellow off rather than just a defensive shooting, why else would he have changed guns? I think it has been determined that he only fired the Judge once so had four more shots. If when he walked back in he had looked at the boy on the floor and shot hin right there he would have a much more convincing case.
 
To be just brutally honest, everything from Ersland's mouth from his report of the beginning elements that the robbers waited for an exiting customer to gain access through the door, rather than the truth of the employees giving access, everything from that point forward is simply delusional lies.
 
everything from Ersland's mouth from his report of the beginning elements that the robbers waited for an exiting customer to gain access through the door, rather than the truth of the employees giving access, everything from that point forward is simply delusional lies.
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I tend to agree, and I believe that his credibility is going to be his most damning factor, he is truly his own worst enemy.

All other evidence aside, Ersland is the only "witness" to the last few seconds of Parker's life, and if a jury is not convinced that there was a threat (by Ersland's testimony) then it will not bode well.

The thing I find most astounding is that his own attorney knows the prosecution has his service records, and knows his client has lied, yet continues to let him make these un-truthful statements to the media ! Things that make you go "Hmmm"
 
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I think this case says it all about making things up to cover your tush in an incident. We get that suggestion here every once in awhile.

Certainly not a poster child for the Armed Citizen. :barf:
 
The thing I find most astounding is that his own attorney knows the prosecution has his service records, and knows his client has lied, yet continues to let him make these un-truthful statements to the media !
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I suspect his attorney has told him not to talk but that Ersland is a bit of a loose cannon. We've all known people like that. You tell them to shut up (for their own good) and they keep on babbling about their troubles. Just look at the governor of South Carolina.
 
When you find yourself at the bottom of a deep hole quit digging. I am afraid that very soon Mr. Ersland will not have to worry about any kind of CCW permit.
 
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