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So you know that they went in there to kill him...with their one unloaded gun?He did the right thing, those thugs ment to kill him
Are you saying he had been shot once during this encounter?21CFA said:He'd already been shot ONCE.
Maybe some sort of post traumatic stress syndrome defense from his injuries during his service during Desert Storm?
He'd already been shot ONCE.
Bud, You have no clue at all... While US Military trained I am not... I have spent my time "in battle" I have also spent more time in ICU for various accidental injuries than most of the American population.To hogdogs:"twitch, flinch, or moan just before being shot the last 5 times? None of these actions deem a man a threat to life, limb or liberty!" Well, let's see if you remember that notorious video of a G.I. shooting a Taliban fighter who "moved" out of the corner of his eye. Training takes over, and reflex follows. I haven't seen ANY clear, plain video of this incident. And as for "Supposedly disabled" pharmacist, you who demean his wounds would be obliged to put up YOUR own DD214 or shut-up. "He scoffs at scars, who never felt a wound" Wm Shakespeare.
Real soldier... Real battle... Our pharmacist is a liar of the most low life type that claim active duty battle experience when it never happened! I have 5 expletives to describe this puke but I like my membership here! Any human that claims US military active duty battle experience that did not happen is 3 rungs lower than a crack dealer to me!Well, let's see if you remember that notorious video of a G.I. shooting a Taliban fighter who "moved" out of the corner of his eye.
The only footage shows our "soldier poser" standing point blank over the punk and filling him full of lead while obviously not distressed in the least...I haven't seen ANY clear, plain video of this incident.
I don't know what a DD214 is but I never claimed battle hours in a war I never was in the service to take part in! As for the "SHUT UP" aspect... you have the right to 1st amendment as do I. I support real vets.. not liars who claim battle hours that they were not even in the service for! Had he spoken such BS in my presence and I known him a liar, he would have faced physical retribution for such fraudulent claims.And as for "Supposedly disabled" pharmacist, you who demean his wounds would be obliged to put up YOUR own DD214 or shut-up
Howz about some citations and sources for the "facts" you state in this post? " His service records indicate that he was not in the military during Desert Storm, nor was he injured. (this is one of a multitude of un-truths this man has claimed)" ¿¿ Source please ?? "... he had not((been shot)), at least not by either of the robbers, the evidence at the scene proved that there were no shots fired by anyone other than the pharmacist. " ¿¿Source please?? "It was also later revealed", does not hack it as a reliable source.
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His service records indicate that he was not in the military during Desert Storm, nor was he injured. (this is one of a multitude of un-truths this man has claimed)Maybe some sort of post traumatic stress syndrome defense from his injuries during his service during Desert Storm?
No, he had not, at least not by either of the robbers,He'd already been shot ONCE.
the evidence at the scene proved that there were no shots fired by anyone other than the pharmacist.
It was also later revealed that the robbers entered the store with an empty firearm.
Perhaps you guys should spend a few moments of "quality time" actually reading some of the posts and links provided in this thread, you might find it educational, and, it will put you in a more informed position to discuss this incident.
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Howz about some citations and sources for the "facts" you state in this post?
" His service records indicate that he was not in the military during Desert Storm, nor was he injured. (this is one of a multitude of un-truths this man has claimed)" ¿¿ Source please ??
... he had not((been shot)), at least not by either of the robbers, the evidence at the scene proved that there were no shots fired by anyone other than the pharmacist. " ¿¿Source please??
"It was also later revealed", does not hack it as a reliable source.
Here's the initial news report: http://newsok.com/pharmacist-is-glad-he-defended-store/article/3371710 ("Man Has No Regrets Defending Pharmacy") Pay attention to what he says in that interview, and then watch the videos below with his words in mind. (This is what he said before he was charged.)
Here's the raw surveillance camera footage: http://newsok.com/multimedia/video/24432753001
Here's the affadavit of probable cause: http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/pharmdoc0001.pdf
Here's a short, edited version of an interview with the prosecuting DA, which includes a few statements from Ersland's defense attorney: http://newsok.com/multimedia/video/24432794001
Here's the extended interview with the DA, uncut. It is hard to hear in spots, and it is WELL worth the 20 minutes it takes to view: http://www.news9.com/Global/categor...art=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3804065
And here's an article about this DA's view of the 2nd Amendment: http://newsok.com/self-defense-allowed-by-law-oklahoma-county-da-says/article/3373148 (The money quote: "I do not want the charging of Jerome Ersland with first-degree murder to have a chilling effect on any person legitimately in a position to defend themselves from an assailant,” ... the decision should not cause anyone to hesitate to use appropriate force if faced by the "imminent threat of serious injury or death from another person.”)
Interestingly, at the bail hearing, the DA (prosecutor) strongly objected to the judge's order forbidding the defendant to own firearms until after the case was resolved. See http://newsok.com/pharmacist-in-fatal-oklahoma-city-shooting-released-on-100000-bail/article/3373194 for that whole story.
This link reports on the O'Reilly interview which happened after he was charged with murder.
There's also a good page here with ongoing local coverage of the situation.
And finally, here's a link to the best in-depth analysis article I've yet seen: here.
21CFA said:News sources are HARDLY professional. No such thing as "professional journalist."