Are You Voting Republican Or Third Party This Year?

Do you really think the Libertarians are taking votes away from the Democrats?
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Nope, and they're also not taking them away from the Republicans. They're voting for the Libertarian.

The Dems are pushing us toward a welfare state and the Pubbies are pushing us toward a police state. I choose to not hasten either outcome.
 
The situation is much different than that. You are standing on a two lane road. The Republicans are in the right lane. The Democrats are in the left lane. There are walls on both sides preventing you from escaping. They are both on their way to run you over. The Dems are moving at 150mph and the driver is blindfolded. The Reps are moving at 40mph and the driver is not wearing his glasses. You have two choices. You can stand in the left lane and hope for a Libertarian miracle and risk being run over by the Dems in a matter of seconds, all the while insisting that pedestrians have the right of way. Or you can step over into the right lane and try to flag down the Republican driver. Maybe he will not see you in time to stop. Maybe he will. I'll take my chances with the right lane.
 
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I will hold my nose,close my eyes and vote Bush Even tho he and his buddys have done more to take away our rights than protect them
 
Taipei Personality,

Making your own lane would be fine if three or four Supreme Court justices weren't about to retire. You want Kerry nominating them?

Even though they keep ducking the issue, probably sooner than later, the Supreme Court will have to decide if the RKBA is an individual or a collective right.

Get the 2nd Amendment on safer ground and then build your third lane....
 
The problem I have with that is the assumption that Libertarians represent gun owners.
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Let's see . . . from the Libertarian Party platform - http://www.lp.org/issues/gun-rights.html :

Banning guns will make guns more expensive and give organized crime a great opportunity to make profits in a new black market for weapons. Street violence will increase in new turf wars. Criminals will not give up their guns. But, many law abiding citizens will, leaving them defenseless against armed bandits.

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Libertarians agree with the majority of Americans who believe they have the right to decide how best to protect themselves, their families and their property. Millions of Americans have guns in their homes and sleep more comfortably because of it. Studies show that where gun ownership is illegal, residential burglaries are higher. A man with a gun in his home is no threat to you if you aren't breaking into it

Guns are not the problem. They are inanimate objects. Gun control advocates talk as if guns could act on their own, as if human beings cannot control them, so the uncontrollable guns must be banished.

Let us put the responsibility where it belongs, on the owner and user of the gun. If he or she acts responsibly, without attacking others or causing injury negligently, no crime or harm has been done. Leave them in peace. But, if a person commits a crime with a gun, then impose the severest penalties for the injuries done to the victim. Similarly, hold the negligent gun user fully liable for all harm his negligence does to others.

Rather than banning guns, the politicians and the police should encourage gun ownership, as well as education and training programs. A responsible, well-armed and trained citizenry is the best protection against domestic crime and the threat of foreign invasion. America's founders knew that. It is still true today.

From the Republican Party platform - http://www.gop.com/GOPAgenda/ :

Well, actually, I didn't find anything there about RKBA. I could be wrong, though. Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.

And yes, before anyone "accuses" me of it, I am a one-issue voter. The issue is liberty.
 
nralife,

I choose to vote my conscience, not the least evil alternative. There is not a dime's worth of difference between D's and R's and I refuse to pretend that there is. Neither of the two major parties has a vested interest in promoting liberty. I refuse to play along with their charade.
 
Well, actually, I didn't find anything there about RKBA. I could be wrong, though. Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough.
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Can't argue with you there. I too am concerned with the GOP's decision to effectively eliminate RKBA from their platform. However, John Kerry has a 100% record of voting to disarm you. Like it or not, the Libertarian candidate (who is it anyway?) is not going to win the election. Period. Full stop. End of sentence. The next President of the United States will either be John Kerry or George Bush. If there were ever a time to hold your nose, this is it. I'd love to be able to vote Libertarian or Constitution Party, but the reality of the situation is what it is.
 
However, John Kerry has a 100% record of voting to disarm you.
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I shan't be voting for John Kerry . . .

Like it or not, the Libertarian candidate (who is it anyway?) is not going to win the election.
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Unlike the R's and D's, we don't select our candidate prior to the convention. Ours is May 27 - 31.

The next President of the United States will either be John Kerry or George Bush.
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Which has no bearing on how I cast my vote . . .

If there were ever a time to hold your nose, this is it.
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I've heard that same statement, in one form or another, for the past 25 years in every presidential election.

I'd love to be able to vote Libertarian or Constitution Party, but the reality of the situation is what it is.
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All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

- Edmund Burke
 
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
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Funny. That's exactly what I was thinking.

Kerry=Evil

Libertarians=Good men doing nothing to stop him

We could debate this all day long. Let's just drop it and see how it plays out. If Kerry wins, then we can resume the debate. That is, if Attorney General Ted Kennedy permits us to. :eek:
 
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I'm voting Republican even though Bush isn't as strong a supporter of the 2nd. Amendment as I'd like. He's still head and shoulders above a Kerry presidency. As far as a third party goes, I just don't think it's a good idea, that's how we got Clinton in '92 and I don't want to see a repeat of that debacle. That said, I am however a huge supporter of the Nader campaign!
 
I am in a state that is heavily democratic and will be in the Kerry column. I will be voting Bush as I really hate the thought of Kerry as C in C. God help us and our RKBA if he is elected! :(
 
Evidently my sarcasm wasn't obvious enough. Hopefully my point was.
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The sarcasm was obvious, the point was not.

To clarify, I did not vote for Perot and the Clinton presidency taught me nothing that I did not already know - for example, that I should not vote for a candidate that does not actively promote liberty.
 
So you dislike Bush and Kerry's policies equally, then?

Hypothetically, you would defer the opportunity to cast the deciding vote (between those two) to someone else?
 
I too am concerned with the GOP's decision to effectively eliminate RKBA from their platform. - fix
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What does this mean? RKBA is not in the 2000 GOP platform nor is any anti gun talk. That is in stark contrast to the Democrat platform, which mentions gun control repeatedly. Was RKBA ever in the GOP platform? You imply that there is some current initiative or some new found opposition to the BoR.

The GOP website lists the 2000 platform. I don't know when platforms are published relative to a convention date. Could you share a draft or explain the inside information you seem to have? I subscribe to GOPUSA and believe I would have heard about it. They have a gun forum by the way.
 
They have removed it from the marquee, so to speak. Meanwhile, the third parties have their stance prominently displayed. If you don't find that disturbing, then I don't know what to say. But there's no need to defend them...I'm voting for Bush (pending AWB Sunset).
 
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