Applying for my Georgia WCL - Asked to come to court?

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trevor002

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So about a week ago I applied for my Georgia Weapons Carry License. I did everything as expected including application, fingerprinting and all of that. However, today I received a notice from the county stating that I have a court date at the probate court in three weeks. I have not read about this at all, and I expected to simply receive the license in the mail.

I do not have a record of any sort. My only issue is that I am not a citizen, but the county did not seem to think this was an issue and all laws and documentation also seemed that this was not an issue.
 
I have not heard of this before, but it would not surprise me if it were a DHS policy handed down. 'Haven't heard of it though.

By the way, the Probate Courts convene at the county level.

Go here and scroll down to almost halfway down the page and read about Probate Judge requirements for issuing a GA Firearms License. The state still calls them that, not Weapons Carry License.

Good luck.
 
If you are waiting for your CC pemit, and get a letter telling you to report to probate court, chances are they are un-related.

Probate court (unless some wierd in GA) deals with wills 'n such.
 
Yeah, it just seemed very weird. I cannot really imagine what I am going to say. "errr, yes, I'm me and I am applying for this license".
 
The hearing actually says:

PLEASE TAKE NOTE, that a Weapons Carry Hearing has been scheduled in the above styled matter for <time, date> in the Probate Court of <county>, Probate Court Courtroom, <address> before the <judge>. <my name> shall appear and give testimony.
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I just cannot imagine what this is. :confused:
 
In my county I go to the probate judges office to drop off the paperwork and pick up the permit after it comes in. It has been years since I first applied and it is easier to renew than to go through the process the 1st time. It could just mean your permit has been approved and you have an appointment to pick it up.

They have never done it this way for me, but different counties could be different. I usually get a letter telling me my permit is ready and to just come in and get it. What county?
 
That is weird. Never heard of probate court dealing in anything but probate matters.
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In Georgia the Probate Court handles Firearms licenses. I would assume the Judge has flagged your request for some reason and is investigating your application. Check out the link below for some helpful information and if you have any trouble give the GeorgiaCarry.org folks a call. Good luck…

http://www.georgiacarry.org/
 
Thanks for the advice all. I have sent an e-mail to Georgia Carry to see if they have heard of this before. I'll update the thread with their reply. Also, if anyone else has experienced this I'd love to hear your story.
 
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You stated you are not a citizen of the USA. Are you here legally or illegally? If a person is here illegally, I can see why a concealed carry permit would not be issued.
 
Discern You stated you are not a citizen of the USA. Are you here legally or illegally? If a person is here illegally, I can see why a concealed carry permit would not be issued.
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I guess you'd have to assume he's legal.
 
Walklightly, we can't assume legal or illegal. The OP did not state their status so it is an unknown. I did not put the OP in either classification as it is an unknown.

If a person is here legally and not a citizen of the USA, there may be reasons why they might not be issued a concealed carry permit. I am sure there are many countries in the world that give its citizens more rights and privileges than people who are not citizens of that country but are there legally. I know people who are in the USA legally and married to a citizen of the USA. However, they do not have all the rights and privileges of USA citizens. One person I know in particular has really encouraged their spouse to go through the process and apply to become an American citizen because they do not have all the rights and privileges of an American citizen.

If a person is here illegally, IMO they have already displayed a disregard for laws of this country.

Again, the OP did not state their status so it is an unknown.
 
Ok. Just to clarify here. :p

I am a legal immigrant currently going through the green card process. It's tremendously arduous and takes 5+ years before I have any security at all. (That's a whole other post though :rolleyes:)

I have paid a boat load of taxes to both the federal government and the state. I love this country and my wife and I have made it our home. I am a legal firearm owner in the state having purchased an HK P2000 and going through all background and residency checks. This included full FBI and GBI checks along with all residency and visa requirements. I am a member of a local gun club in good standing.

I am choosing to apply for and obtain a firearms permit for several reasons. These reasons include the security of my family and myself. Fortunately the state of Georgia (from what I have read) does grant her residents their constitutionally guaranteed rights to purchase and bear arms.

So, let me explain immigration to folks that have never really spoken to someone who is doing it. (feel free to stop reading) ;)

Understand that people like myself who legally immigrate to the United States do so for a variety of reasons. Regardless, it is an extremely tough road to walk down. The current climate of the US is unfortunately anti-immigrant as most feel that we are all either a) sneaking over the border or b) "stealing" jobs. While I cannot speak for the folks in "a", I can tell you that the folks perceived to be in the latter category are what built this country into the world power it became. The vast majority of Americans have ancestors that were immigrants who braved the hardships to become citizens. Heck, permanent residence without marriage or a Ph.D is a very drawn out process.

My point is, that companies that choose to hire folks like me really do not like to do so. I make just as much, if not more that the industry average (this also has to be proven in order to hire me in the first place) and I cost lots more in legal-related fees. I'm a last resort! My company has been advertising for another one of me in the South East for 9 months. I'm in an industry that brings a great deal of money into the country and employs more people each day in the US in high paying jobs. When I help grow the company, more folks get hired. This is a simple equation that many folks just do not understand. Should the current climate continue the US will suffer its first "brain drain" which could cripple industry and high tech further.

I had spoken about security before. Let me explain that. In accepting a position where I move to the US, I take a risk that many of you could not fully understand. I effectively become an indentured servant to the company. This means that I am 100% reliant on continued employment with that company or I can be fired which would instantly make me "illegal". I am a home owner, I have friends, colleagues and a life here. At the whim of my employer it all disappears. I would have to change status to being a visitor to sell my house and pay for all my belongings to be sent back to my native country. I am in this status for at least 5 years if all goes well. All the while paying all the same taxes you do, and having little, if any rights at all.

If you want to meet a person that loves America, find your nearest person going through an employment-based permanent residence process. Remember that you were born here because your parents, grandparents, or great grandparents got here somehow. I chose to come here and earn my right to be here and contribute. Heck, I'm the ideal resident. I have to be employed, I am fully "tracked" federally and at the state level, I spend 100% of my money in the country, pay full taxes, and have no right to vote or change anything at all.

Before anyone says "well, quit complaining and leave" or "well, my <insert relative here> lost his job to outsourcing / immigrants" re-read what I wrote. Finally, the reason I went on this rant is because of the immediate move in the thread which smacked of immigration-related drama and I want to dispel it.

/rant off.
 
I understand the immigration process. I am a second generation American citizen. I have an uncle who immigrated legally from another country and married my aunt who is a first generation American citizen. My uncle left his native country due to the fact his life was in danger from the military of an invading country.

My uncle has paid his fair share of taxes, but I never heard him complain about paying the taxes. I also did not hear him complain about the process of becoming an American citizen. He was very proud to call himself an American when he became an American citizen. He did not speak or know English when he first came here, but he learned to speak and read the English language. It is evident by his speech that English is not his native language. He built a very successful business and did not receive any help from the government.

I know Americans who are working in other countries. Everything they buy (vehicles, maintenance, general services, food, clothing, property) or rent (housing, parking) costs them much more because they are 'Americans'. It is a fact and something they know comes with the territory.

The fact is most if not every country in the world gives more rights and privileges to its citizens, and IMO that is the way it should be because they are citizens of that country.

What is the citizen process, firearm ownership, property ownership, taxes, rights and privileges for non-citizens in your native country?

I don't see Americans against immigration. I see Americans (my uncle included) who see illegal immigration as a potential security problem and economic drain on America.
 
I want to chime in on this one.***Rant on*** I am not against immigration as long as someone does it legally. I have a problem with people who sneak across the border and then expect to be treated as a legal. But the part that bothers me most are people who come here and are not willing to learn American ( I say American because our language is more slang than English ). I hear people say Speaka Spanish ? I am so glad when I hear someone ( no badly how they butcher the English or American language) try to communicate in the language of this country. A co worker is from Morocco and he butchers the language but he tries.***Rant off *** Now with that said if someone is legal then I have no problem with them having a gun and being able to carry. The OP is right that all but Native Americans migrated here from somewhere else. But when they came they did not say speaka ( insert language ) . They tried their best to learn how we did things here. Welcome to America trevor002.
 
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If you're not a citizen, you should not be able to get a license.
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Why? So long as background checks all pass with no red flags, and the person owns property and pays taxes, why should he/ she not be allowed to protect themselves and their property like any other citizen?

As far as the hearing, I imagine it's as a couple have already posited; the probate judge likely wants to make sure you are who you say you are, based on the current "climate," before rubber- stamping your permit. Don't sweat it. Show up looking nice and tell the truth.

It's no surprise, really. Wal Mart checks my ID every time to make sure I'm an American citizen before I can buy ammo. We're extremely fortunate to live in a country with such freedom, but we are subtly being stripped of our freedoms by fear- based leadership.
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Water-Man said:
If you're not a citizen, you should not be able to get a license.
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One of the arguments made for years in support of the right to own and carry is that it is a basic human right. God given, if you will.

A legal immigrant, with the publicly stated objective of becoming a citizen, abiding by our laws (playing by the rules ...). I see no problem. Georgia is a shall issue state.

Good luck on the interview, Trevor. Kindly keep us posted on the outcome right here in this thread.

If you think you can manage it, ask the judge the reason for the process. They may tell you up front. If this thread doesn't stay open for some reason, kindly PM me with the outcome.
 
It's no surprise, really. Wal Mart checks my ID every time to make sure I'm an American citizen before I can buy ammo.
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No, they're just checking age... a driver's license isn't proof of citizenship (immigrants can get them).
 
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