Anything Good About The Gwb Administration????

I voted for Bush because I wanted him, and not Gore/Kerry, to be picking Supreme Court Justices. So far I think that the GWB Administration has done a better job of picking ... no not perfect and I'm glad Miers is out ... but I have never ever wished Gore/Kerry had been elected and I shudder to think of what kind of person they would try to get on the SCOTUS.
 
anyone kerry picked wouldnt of been because of their "religion". but i digress. who the f@#$ cares about woulda coulda shoulda
 
You would think the gun owners who ascribe to the teachings of Modern Liberalism would stop once in awhile and ask themselves, "Why do I support a cause that is philosophically opposed to the RKBA?"

Don't trust a government who doesn't trust you with your guns.
 
silver bullet: wasnt a certain high ranking repub. going to sign a certain bill if it came to his desk?

Kinda gratifying that out of that entire list of items I borrowed listed (mostly borrowed from Mr. Roberts' thread of about a year ago), that you only found that one to pick on: makes me feel like I did a good job of answering the original thread question. You're welcome ! (And thanks again, for about the fourth time, to Mr. Roberts for his contribution).

Meanwhile, regarding the AWB bill: GWB made a campaign promise to sign it if it came across his desk, true. The point is, he didn't push for it to be renewed. Gore or Kerry or Hillary would have. And that makes it another good thing about this administration.
 
silver: wow man you are the master, you proved that republicans are pro-gun. what else would they have for themselves if not that?

you didnt answer any of the questions in the original posters post did you?
 
you didnt answer any of the questions in the original posters post did you?

I certainly did. The original question was "Anything Good about the Gwb Administration????" All of the events I related occurred during this administration.

you proved that republicans are pro-gun. what else would they have for themselves if not that?
That's plenty. Look around. Did you notice where you are ?

And I would say routing the Taliban and taking the fight to Osama is also a huge plus, one that Clinton evaded.
 
IS THERE ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT THE GWB ADMINSTRATION??????

There are some things good about the administration under GWB.

1. His first Supreme Court choice.
2. Tax cuts.
3. A national economy that is doing quite well.
4. Bringing the war to the enemy's soil instead of having it on ours.
5. The lack of endorsement for the assault weapons ban.
6. CAFTA

Like any President, GWB has had his flaws. Spending is out of control, Miers was a poor choice, and his reasons for going to war were questionable at best. But considering the alternative, I would vote for GWB again. Now lets look at some of your points.

No WMD: Indeed, the possible deception is probably Bush's greatest fault. Its possible that Bush believed what he was saying. Its also possible that some WMDs were sent to Syria prior to the beginning of the war.

UBL still running free: The US Government is physically limited and not omniscient. Usama's a clever bastard. You cannot say the administration has not tried.

gasoline prices up by a factor of 3: GWB is responsible for this how? Neither he nor congress has control over world supply and demand. Asia is growing and taking a bigger chunk of the oil on the market. Get used to it.

US citizens hungry and un-housed: This is left wing nonsense. Show me one time in American history when this was not true, and tell me why it should not remain true.

national economy in shreds: By observation this is false. The economy is doing quite well, or maybe you didn't notice the housing market, the increase in technical jobs, the rise in consumer confidence since the start of his presidency, and the climb of the DJIA.

world respect gone: Given corruption at the UN and shady deals between our NATO "allies" and Saddam Hussein, I see no reason to pander for the favor of the rest of the world.

enditements almost weekly: There has been a total of about 2 indictments. Delay's have nothing to do with GWB, and Libby's is the same old purgery charge the Special Prosecturs love to throw around. He should be prosecuted if he did lie, but that was hardly reason to have Fitzgerald there in the first place.

appointments with little or no regards for qualifications: He did screw the Miers nomination. His attempt to avoid a fight backfired greatly.

individual freedoms swept under the rug under the guise of home land security: That's a ridiculous statement, given what had happened in New York. This is more left wing nonsense.

gun registration: The gun registration, and I use that term loosely, was there before Bush got into office.

over 2000 americans and untold numbers of others killed: That's a pretty good casualty rate for a war.

VA bennifits cut, VA hospitals closed: I don't know of any cuts to benefits. When there are more hospitals than what's needed, it makes sense to close some.

unprecidented profitts by gwbs oil company budies: More left wing nonsense. That oil companies are making profits has nothing to do with them being GWB's "buddies". The answer is simple supply and demand.
 
"No WMD: Indeed, the possible deception is probably Bush's greatest fault. Its possible that Bush believed what he was saying. Its also possible that some WMDs were sent to Syria prior to the beginning of the war."
your a intelligence agent now? which organization do you work for?

"UBL still running free: The US Government is physically limited and not omniscient. Usama's a clever bastard. You cannot say the administration has not tried.:
yes limited because of fighting two wars at once. tried? remember tora bora?

you are right on the gas prices. I do think something does need to be done though. also the bushies have ALOT of oil contacts and interests.

I have no stats on hungry or unhoused. yet they are cutting alot of funding for alot of programs that poor people depend on right now.

"national economy in shreds: By observation this is false. The economy is doing quite well, or maybe you didn't notice the housing market, the increase in technical jobs, the rise in consumer confidence since the start of his presidency, and the climb of the DJIA."
there are alot of jobs being shipped overseas lately and alot of illegal immigrants working alot of jobs. do you think the housing market is going to stay so lucrative?

"world respect gone: Given corruption at the UN and shady deals between our NATO "allies" and Saddam Hussein, I see no reason to pander for the favor of the rest of the world. "
Thats not a good enough answer for me. our credibility really is shot with alot of countries.

as for indictmints, it sucks I really hope they go no higher, Im also not really following it that closely.

"appointments with little or no regards for qualifications: He did screw the Miers nomination. His attempt to avoid a fight backfired greatly."
Fema, and mr. brown.

"individual freedoms swept under the rug under the guise of home land security: That's a ridiculous statement, given what had happened in New York. This is more left wing nonsense."
IM not the biggest fan of the patriot act.

"over 2000 americans and untold numbers of others killed: That's a pretty good casualty rate for a war"
Tell that to the mothers, sisters, brothers, fathers, friends of the fallen.

"VA bennifits cut, VA hospitals closed: I don't know of any cuts to benefits. When there are more hospitals than what's needed, it makes sense to close some."
Look for them they are there.
 
forgot this one.

Oil industry support Bush campaign
WASHINGTON (AP) - While locked in a string of disputes with the Clinton administration, the oil industry has pumped more than $1.5 million into George W. Bush's campaign. Oil companies will be seeking Bush's help on a range of issues, should he be elected president.
This is just the first election.
 
On top of this you can add allowing the AWB to sunset, passing the gun industry protection bill, installing Bolton as our UN representative to slap down the UN on their attempted global gun grabs, and (hopefully) the right Chief Justice with John Roberts.
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I have made my post, but please everyone, lets leave the language, and personal insults out of this. I for one would like to see this remain open. Take a couple of minutes, go outside, and yell about what $%^&*#% morons we are. Get the curse words out, and then make your post. keep it civil, and maybe we can keep enlightning one another.
 
"No WMD: Indeed, the possible deception is probably Bush's greatest fault. Its possible that Bush believed what he was saying. Its also possible that some WMDs were sent to Syria prior to the beginning of the war."
your a intelligence agent now? which organization do you work for?

I never claimed to be an intelligence agent, and both claims I made were described as possibilities, not truths. But I can read CNN, Newsweek, and the Wall Street Journal. I also have lots of friends in the military who hold similar suspicions, and talk of intervention from Syria. Albeit that's hearsay, but I have confidence in the judgement of those I know who have served in Iraq.

yes limited because of fighting two wars at once. tried? remember tora bora?

Waging a two front war was successfully done against Japan and Germany. We can handle Iraq and Afghanistan.

"over 2000 americans and untold numbers of others killed: That's a pretty good casualty rate for a war"
Tell that to the mothers, sisters, brothers, fathers, friends of the fallen.

That the sacrifice of human lives is sometimes necessary to deal with the evils of the world we live in is a sad truth, but a truth nonetheless. I know people who were hurt in Iraq, and I am proud of them. I find it more disheartening to hear that many people believe nothing is worth dying for, than that some die who do believe there is something worth dying for. Whether or not Iraq qualifies is up to personal belief, but I think it does. We went in and made a big mess. To pack up now and leave it to the wolves would not be right.

As for the rest of it, we have our opinions and for the most part we will not see eye to eye.
 
win: are you trying to say that you know how people think and feel?

In certain situations, absolutely. If I don't take out the trash, my wife feels angry. When I see Ted Kennedy (D-Chappaquidick) going off on the NRA, I feel angry. When I see supposed gun owners supporting anti-gun politicians, I'm not sure they can think.

If they can't trust me with my guns, I can't trust them with my vote.

Tim
 
"yes limited because of fighting two wars at once. tried? remember tora bora?"

The US has more than enough capacity to fight both in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time.

Remember Tora Bora? What about Tora Bora? You mean the massive system of caves, hidden valleys, in some of the roughest terrain in the world?

There very likely isn't a single person alive who knows the layout of that system.

What would your solutio have been?


"I do think something does need to be done though. also the bushies have ALOT of oil contacts and interests."

And your point is... what? Go back and reread my message about how oil moves on the international market.


"there are alot of jobs being shipped overseas lately and alot of illegal immigrants working alot of jobs. do you think the housing market is going to stay so lucrative?"

And that equates to the economy being in shreds... HOW?

As I noted, the unemployment rate continues to be maintained at a steady, low level. The incredible hype about jobs being shipped overseas is just that, incredible hype. It's not caused massive unemployment.

Illegal immigrants are working jobs. Yes, they are. Want to know why? Not because they're taking jobs from Americans who want to work, but in many cases they're taking the jobs that Americans simply will NOT do.


As for the housing market not remaining lucrative....

Guess what. The housing market, and the economy, CYCLE. There are UPS and there are DOWNS.

Are you old enough to remember the economic situation in the 1970s?

Are you old enough to remember the economic situation in the 1980s?

You made a very clear statement, that AT THIS MOMENT, RIGHT NOW, the economy is in shreds. By that you inferred that millions are out of work, buying power is plummeting, inflation is soaring, etc.

Don't try to scurry around your statment and try to redefine it with a bunch of BS nonsequitor "observations."

You made a claim, and it is a LIE, and you know it.

"Thats not a good enough answer for me. our credibility really is shot with alot of countries."

Again, so what? We're the biggest, baddest, meanest son of a bitch on the face of the earth on so many levels it's not even funny. We have by FAR the most largest and most vibrant economy. It's larger than the next three largest combined. The simple fact is that the rest of the world needs us a lot more desperately than we need them.
 
oh man here we go again.

dude yes these are my opinions i may be right or wrong but they are my OPINIONS.

tora bora: I would of sent our troops in not some lackeys. LOTS of em.

my point is just what i typed about oil. i was just making a point, not making fun of your mother.

"And that equates to the economy being in shreds... HOW? "
It was just a statement, i never said the economy was in shreds, just pointing out some problems.

"As I noted, the unemployment rate continues to be maintained at a steady, low level. The incredible hype about jobs being shipped overseas is just that, incredible hype. It's not caused massive unemployment"
You like jobs being shipped over sea's? I personnally dont.
I dont care that much about the illegals, at least they work. but i dont like illegal immigration, i think it needs to be stopped.

"You made a very clear statement, that AT THIS MOMENT, RIGHT NOW, the economy is in shreds. By that you inferred that millions are out of work, buying power is plummeting, inflation is soaring, etc. "
THIS WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POSTER.

"You made a claim, and it is a LIE, and you know it."
see above, and eat your tongue.

you take pride in us being the biggest baddest bully in the world? that good for you but i dont like it. dude i say again. these are my opinions. most of you think im off my rocker. but DO NOT say i tell lies again please.
 
Dubya engineered the end of two of the longest running losing regimes in Major League Baseball history. Thanks to GWB, the formerly oppressed Red Sox (sox color no indication of communist leanings) and White Sox are now standing tall in the land of Freedom and again breathing the sweet air of Democracy (instead of the stench of the locker room ;) ).
 
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