Anyone use an bare bones stock semi auto AK to hunt with.

CatFishMan , you are right , the safety should be on till ready to shoot ! Unfortunately there are many like the guy that made that post ! We have to live among them , but I'll be damned if I'll hunt anywhere near them , if I can help it!
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I agree that in general you should keep the safety on until ready to shoot, but I see nonthing wrong with taking the safety off once seated and your ready for your game to come out. If you can't not accidentally pull the trigger without the safety on then I wouldn't want to hunt anywhere near you also....:)
 
Ease up on the coffee Old Sap!!!!!

Don't yell "!" when expressing a difference of opinion.

"alabama" isn't a spelling error.

"appriciate" is a spelling error.

Don't misspell words when attemping to correct someone's spelling.

Apples and oranges.

Glocks and other handguns without safeties are carried in a holster.

My old Marlin has to be cocked before it is fired.

I can't believe that this is even up for debate. You don't hunt with your safety off. It can get someone killed and what is the benefit?

One last point. If you sometimes have your safety off and sometimes have it on, you can get mixed up when a deer walks out.

Now to the OP. I know many people who have used SKSs to kill deer without a problem, so the round is fine. I'm sure a bare bones AK will kill a deer, but there are many, many much better choices out there.
 
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then I wouldn't want to hunt anywhere near you also..
Shouldn't be an issue.
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We agree on one thing.......:)

Hope you get a big one!

P.S.

When that big one steps out don't forget to take your safety off......Happy Hunting:)
 
Now since I am not an idiot if I sit down with my AK waiting for a deer to pass by and I take my safety off I am aware it is off. I will not sit there and play with the trigger. If a deer comes by I will shoot him. If not before I leave I have enough brains to place the safety back to the on position because I was aware it was off. I was aware it was in the off position because I was the person that put it there.

Also when I come back into civilization before I am around other human beings the chamber will be clear and the mag removed from the rifle.

I don't know how intelligent the rest of you are but I know how to safely handle my rifles and no one is in any danger when I am around unless they try to punch me in the face.

It is none of anyone's business if I want to sit under a tree with an AK with the safety off. Get over it.
 
I've seen a lot of forums along the same topic. It seems the same replies of "7.62x39 is similar enough to .30-30 so stay under 100yds" or "as long as you do your part with shot placement". Both of those are completely accurate, and the AK platform can be relatively accurate to around 1 MOA or so if you learn the nuances of the rifle and maybe upgrade the trigger.

I have both AKM and AK-74 rifles and even though the terminal ballistics are awesome for the 5.45, I would not hunt with the AK 74 unless I was out for prairie dogs and there was a huge population needing maintenance. The AK in 7.62 does have enough punch for smaller deer with standard soft point or hollow point ammo. If you handload some rounds with a more hunting specific design and load to the higher end of the powder charge, it will take care of most white tail deer with good shot placement just like you would need with any other rifle. As far as with hog hunting, it doesn't quite have the punch needed.
 
I personally think getting a CETME .308 or a Saiga .308 will be the best of both worlds. Still the rugged semi-auto action, a chambering with better ballistics and ammo choices, and as long as you reload, you could keep ammo costs pretty low. You could also handload the hunting rounds and fine tune which bullet weight, design, and powder load you use to get the rifle to sub-MOA accuracy. The Cetme is also very easy to mount optics to and have consistent accuracy.
 
I'll go one better.

I don't hunt with or own an AK. I hunt with Bolt Guns/

I never use the safety while hunting, BUT, I don't keep a round in the chamber.

Only when I get ready to shoot do I chamber a round. In my 50 years of hunting I never missed out on a shot because I didn't have a round in the chamber.

I never heard of a gun that didn't have a round in the chamber going off. I have heard of safeties malfunctioning, I've heard of guns one on safe, discharging when bumped. But I never heard of one going off when there was no round in the chamber.
 
AK platform can be relatively accurate to around 1 MOA or so if you learn the nuances of the rifle and maybe upgrade the trigger
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What do you consider "relatively accurate". .5-1.5 MOA?

I have seen and shot many AK's and know all bout the "nuances" of the AK but have never seen one that could consistanly print 1MOA groups.
I would be interested in the details of a AK setup that can produce 1MOA accuracy. Caliber, country of origin, parts modifications?

And lets not bother with the bs like 3 shot groups or silly stuff that changes the rifle from being what it was designed to be (AKA the sons of guns 1000 yard AK chop job)
 
^^ I would have bet money you used a m1a while hunting
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Not likely. I love my M1A, but its a Super Match, quite heavy. Even my AR Service Rifle is 13 lbs.

I'm lazy, I use Winchester Featherweights for hunting.

How ever I don't use the safety on my M1A, M1, etc. either. It's a differant story.

I use an ECI (empty chamber indicator) in those rifles until I'm ready to shoot. The the mag is loaded, inserted, and I don't close the bolt until the targets come up and I drop into position and lined up on the target.

But as to hunting, again I've never seen the need to carry a round in the chamber. Never have I been in the place where to split sec. it takes to work the acton caused me to miss a shot.
 
Valmet
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Yes the Valmet has an AK action however calling the valmet an AK is like calling the Dragonuv/SVD an AK or like calling a Razorcat Race gun a 1911.
Its a half truth, because the gun has been changed/improved beyond what it was originaly.

Besides the issues of the rifle there is the issue of the ammo. Apart from handloads you would be very hard pressed to find 7.62x39 that could hold 1MOA groups.
 
mines not wood, it's got the black synth furniture but it's great for skunks, racoons, coyotes...just about any small game within 50 yards. I've never tried it on deer but I hear it's a pretty decent round for close range deer hunting with the right ammo
 
Yes the Valmet has an AK action however calling the valmet an AK is like calling the Dragonuv/SVD an AK
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Not really. The Valmet is much more of an AK than the Dragunov/SVD. The SVD has a few parts that superficially resemble an AK, but the action of the gun is vastly different. The Valmet is probably similar enough that the bolt carriers will interchange with an AK; AKM bolt carriers and Galil bolt carriers interchange, for example, and the Galil is based off the Valmet.

In your own question, you asked for an AK type that could achieve 1 MOA accuracy, even suggesting that it could very well be from a variety of other countries or in a caliber other than 7.62x39, or configured in a way other than a standard AKM, or possibly any combination of these. The Valmet fits the bill given that you yourself allowed for those variables.
 
Fair enough,

and the Galil is based off the Valmet.
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And this I did not know. Learn something everyday. As for the SVD that was a bad example. I should have said PSL.

I don't want to discuss the point at wich an "AK" stops being an "AK" and becomes something else.(mostly because semantics do not interest me)

What I had ment by "modifications" was trigger upgrades, optics, new barrel etc. All these things can stay within the specifications of the original AK/AKM design. As for country of origin I was thinking Russia, China, Yugo, Bulgy etc.

My question should have been. "What AK/AKM could produce 1MOA groups."
Any confusion was my fault for not being specific in what I was looking for.
 
Even if 5moa is all your AK is capable of a rifleman can still cleanly kill deer at the ranges the original poster said was the norm where he hunts.

I laugh my ass off at these sandbaggers who take over the range just before deer season. They spend days and huge amounts of money trying to find a rifle scope and ammo combo that will shoot that tiny one hole group at 100 yards. After they succeed they declare themselves ready to go hunting.

They have the round's trajectory memorised. They know exactly how much the round drops at 543 yards and they have the range finder with them.

On opening morning they completly miss a deer 60 yards away because they don't have a clue about shooting without a bench and sandbags.
 
I never use the safety while hunting, BUT, I don't keep a round in the chamber.
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You probably don't do much dense woods hunting.........:rolleyes:

Hey while your at it why even have a round in the magazine.....hell don't even open your box of ammo until you see your target come out......lol:eek:
 
I never use the safety while hunting, BUT, I don't keep a round in the chamber.

Only when I get ready to shoot do I chamber a round. In my 50 years of hunting I never missed out on a shot because I didn't have a round in the chamber.
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I feel the most important part of your method is consistency.
 
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