Anyone order the Glock "gadget"

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LittleLebowski said:
For those attempting to use the ground fighting excuse as to negate the idea of an invention they have never touched, much less seen, try asking Craig Douglas AKA "SouthNarc" about the SCD. Please
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That is an opinion that I would listen to and value. Few else here.
 
I have no financial interest in this invention of any sort. None. Got it? There's precisely two people in this world that have a financial interest, Tom Jones the co-inventor and Todd Green's widow. That's it.

Furthermore, the device is a far cry from "Rube Goldberg" and no one who has seen it in person nor used it has ever used that descriptor. It is elegant, simple, reliable, and durable.
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I only question this because according to the company they joined st started shipping the devices that have been ordered for over a year. If you are not a part of the company, how did you get one to use "for years"?(your words)
I've been using this device daily for years.
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I could explain the friendship and student factor, but would you prefer to just stick with a conspiracy theory, CheapShooter?

I'm dead serious, you seem hell bent on absolute negativity and extremely poor manners no matter what logical explanation you hear. Do you want the truth or do you want to stick with your unreasoning negativity? Honest question.
 
The gadget has had presence on the Internet since 2011. Thus, folks such as Lebowski has had the ability to test such since then.

If one wants to discuss the utility, that's fine. Impugning motivation is not something we are interested in here.
 
yeah in a fight the slide could be pressed up hard against your body, or the slide could also be pushed out of battery. I think anyone who trains like that probably doesn't need the gadget and anyone who doesn't train like that and ever finds themselves in such a predicament has already lost the fight. My guess is the vast majority of armed civilians will never need their gun at all but improving their daily safety re-holstering or other is probably something more likely to train for just like the thousands of guns sold with thumb safeties I don't see why this is a bad idea for Glocks. I don't see why gun owners here would criticize it the less ND's we have the less gun control has to argue with. If your qualified re-holstering safely then don't buy one.

I do think its overpriced and that will be a showstopper getting it more popular.
 
yeah in a fight the slide could be pressed up hard against your body, or the slide could also be pushed out of battery. I think anyone who trains like that probably doesn't need the gadget and anyone who doesn't train like that and ever finds themselves in such a predicament has already lost the fight. My guess is the vast majority of armed civilians will never need their gun at all but improving their daily safety re-holstering or other is probably something more likely to train for just like the thousands of guns sold with thumb safeties I don't see why this is a bad idea for Glocks. I don't see why gun owners here would criticize it the less ND's we have the less gun control has to argue with. If your qualified re-holstering safely then don't buy one.
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Talk to Southnarc.

I do think its overpriced and that will be a showstopper getting it more popular.
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It was cheaper when they were looking at making it in China. Now it's made in an American machine shop. The profit margin is extremely low.
 
Your statements about firing in such a manner as 'far fetched' flies in the sight of reason and reality. There was recently this year a highly publicized police shooting (never you mind the many others, many of which occur at the grapple or clinch ranges) in which an officer effected near contact shots during a grapple. A handgun, if not already drawn in a pro-active search for targets/work, is a reactive weapon. They are drawn when reacting to a threat, which means you are behind the initiative curve. Meaning, you are likely already losing. Further, if you believe that you won't use your firearm while fighting, and don't realize that grappling is an awful lot what fighting looks like/is, then I don't know how to address you.
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I'm not denying that police officers/security, etc, may be involved in a lethal force encounter which also necessitates grappling. However, how often would that also specifically involve pressing the rear of the slide forward with your thumb? You said you've done it in training, but what about real life? What about others in your profession?

Armed civilians are less likely to be in that sort of situation as they are not required to move into contact range to effect an arrest. Not everyone who carries a gun is a high-speed, low-drag operator nor do they necessarily have the same equipment requirements.
 
I always liked it, and carried Series 80's up until I stopped carrying 1911's.

Then again, they were factory designed, built, and backed by Colt. Big difference. ;)
 
For what it's worth, I have been using the SCD since 2011 as a beta tester. I was a student of Todd Green's and a close friend. Furthermore, I met the co-inventor Tom Jones through Todd and we are now close friends.

I wrote this article about it.

I am buying this for my brother and also my best friend. It's an amazing, simple, reliable, durable product that just works.
 
I use a Fricke Zach holster when I AIWB my Glock or Shield. I do not need an $80 dollar part that adds redundancy and more parts.
 
I'm glad somebody is thinking about it. Glock has had 4 Gen's and never addressed their own higher than normal ND percentage.

Can't really get a feel for the device, so I'm unopinionated on the gadget!
 
I'm personally not a fan as I feel it is a bandaid for training/respect for the handgun.

But it is an option, and you know what, if someone wants it... I'm glad for them. It is a capitalistic society for that reason.

While I do see a lot of flack towards it, I see supporters doing the same towards those that don't see it as a positive modification. It's like it must be accepted, or you're a jerk.

I asked this once, but don't remember if there was an answer (same BS being tossed by both sides, and I really didn't feel like reading through it)... let's say you have the backplate pushed in while inserting into the holster. Shirt or something that you should have cleared away gets into the trigger guard as you shove the gun into the holster. Pressure on the trigger is still there, and you let off the backplate. What happens? Disconnector stops the round from firing? Round goes off? Is there feedback from the backplate that pushes against your thumb as you meet resistance against the trigger?

It would seem that because the trigger isn't moving, you have pressure on it, and then release the "safety," you'd have a boom. While you'd have a boom if you did it without the modification, is there any benefit of having the gun fully holstered prior to the round firing? "Knowing" you have a "safety" will more times than not let people relax their consideration. Christ... how many people actually popped magazines out of S&W 3rd generation pistols to not worry about it firing/being turned against them?

Simple demonstration would be hold the gun in your right hand, put a primed case in (no bullet/powder), push the backplate with your left hand while squeezing the trigger with your right hand, then let off the backplate. Primer going off is the answer.

Now, I'm sure it will come down to that isn't the idea of the product... but what is the likelihood that most users interested would use it as such a device? If I'm wrong about it, I'd change my opinion as soon as I'm proven wrong... but from how I understand non-gun people thought processes (I'm L/E, and even though a lot of people in my area are gun people, many L/E do not have a background in shooting more than qualifications), I think it would do more harm than good. The designers might be skilled enough to not shoot their junk off, but how about all the other people putting $80,000+ towards that?
 
Glock has had 4 Gen's and never addressed their own higher than normal ND percentage.
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Is it really the fault of the design? Or the fact that there are so many of them, and so many in the hands of irresponsible people.


think it’s safe to say that Glocks have more stupid, incompetent, and untrained users than any other brand of pistol excepting common criminal drop pieces (Raven, Lorcin, Jennings, Davis etc... all of which also have very high negligent discharge rates, as well as high ACCIDENTAL discharge rates).

Glocks are the best selling pistol brand in America (the 1911 is the most popular type but is sold under many brands). They are often purchased by people who know little to nothing about guns. They are often issued to police officers who know little to nothing about guns. Also, they are a favorite of criminals, and criminal wannabe's because of their prevalence in Hip-Hop culture (though this is declining somewhat).

Hell, this guys probably qualifies in all three categories:



All gun types and brands are sometimes misused; but because of these factors, Glocks are more often misused than any other gun.

Let’s say that again: Glocks have a higher negligent discharge rate because there are more of them; and because their users are on average less experienced with guns.
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http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2006/04/glocks-and-safety.html
 
So this whole time Glock has been calling it the "Safe Action" they were lying? :eek:

I don't want it, I don't need it. The only use I can see this having is in case another deplorable state government passes another round of anti gun crap and mandates more safeties on pistols.
 
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