Anyone know how/if the Sig P365 is drop safe?

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I haven't been able to get an answer to this so far. I'm hoping there is one. I know that dropped guns are not a common occurrence but they do happen. The P365, from what I can tell, has a fairly light single action trigger -- and the striker is fully pretensioned??? -- around 5.5 lb or so. No trigger dingus or other external safety mechanisms that I can see.

So, if this pistol is dropped similarly to the pre-recalled P320, what is to keep the trigger from "pulling itself" under the inertia of the drop?

I'm very interested in the P365, but this seems like something I want to understand better. I've asked in a P365 forum but the only responses have been along the lines of "don't drop your gun and you'll be fine" :confused:
 
I think that’s a reasonable concern given that the P365 trigger has a fatter profile that looks very similar to the SIG P320 pre-voluntary upgrade trigger.

On the P320, one of the fixes was to reduce the mass of the trigger to help prevent inertia from pulling the trigger. So, I’d be interested in why the P365 has that chunky trigger in it. Although with all the Youtube channels these days, you’d think there would be a hundred guys whacking P365s with mallets trying to get that next viral hit.
 
To my knowledge the trigger mechanism is the same as the P320. It likely uses the same drop safe mechanism, which is a combination of the fact that the trigger bar moves forward when the trigger is pulled and the mass of the trigger bar outweighs that of the trigger shoe. Given that the P320 can be drop safe, I think the P365 can be as well. As for has anyone tested it, my guess is someone has. However, a test with a negative result gathers nowhere near the same YouTube views as one with a positive result, in this case.

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I would imagine after the P320 issues, Sig would be running a very tight ship on drop safety issues.
 
While I don’t doubt SIG vetted the pistol thoroughly (and I’m sure SIG competitors did too!), the link in the Wikipedia article is to a Soldier Systems page of straight-up unedited SIG press releases (and that factoid isn’t on that page either).

I’d be skeptical of any press release; but given the fine but misleading distinctions SIG has been known to make in the past regarding accidental discharges, I’d be extremely skeptical of this one.

I’d put more faith in the absence of videos showing a problem than the press release. I’m sure there are a dozen or more Youtubers going at the P365 like a dwarven blacksmith at his forge.
 
If you're going to do that, let me know; I'll buy them all for $250/each to get those unsafe guns off the market........ :D
 
ManyMag said:
There's just something wrong with the notion any gun is safe to drop.
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Not really, no. Firing pin blocks, inertial requirements, all of these exist. The point in asking about or looking for drop safety information isn't to advocate dropping firearms.

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Bartholomew Roberts said:
I don’t care if you do it through practically perfect pistol handling or holsters and redundant mechanical safeties designed to mitigate human imperfection; but don’t be that reason why we can’t have nice things.
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Assault and weapons charges? Was she carrying illegally? Don't get the assault part of it..was she arguing with the lady shot?

Ahh, found
According to the jail website she is charged with possession of a stolen firearm, carrying a concealed weapon and simple assault.

There are signs outside the building forbidding firearms on the premises.
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BUT still don't get the 'assault' part.
 
Ok, first of all, that 'chunky' trigger is hollow, not solid. Secondly it has a firing pin block to prevent the striker from releasing.

I don't think the striker is fully cocked anyway, the trigger pull is fairly stiff.
 
chris in va said:
Ok, first of all, that 'chunky' trigger is hollow, not solid. Secondly it has a firing pin block to prevent the striker from releasing.

I don't think the striker is fully cocked anyway, the trigger pull is fairly stiff.
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The firing pin block didn't help the P320. That's what motivated this question.

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chris in va said:
Ok, first of all, that 'chunky' trigger is hollow, not solid. Secondly it has a firing pin block to prevent the striker from releasing.

I don't think the striker is fully cocked anyway, the trigger pull is fairly stiff.
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The firing pin block prevents the striker from releasing if the trigger is not pulled. That's the point of my question about being "drop safe." The P320 fired because it was dropped in such a way that the trigger was pulled down by inertia, and the firing pin block became irrelevant because the trigger was pulled.
 
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