Anyone excited about Sig bringing back the P-225?

I have a P6 that I treasure. It is nice that Sig is bringing the P225 back.
It would be nicer to see a smaller top end for the P239.
 
Fishbed77 said:
I'd be more excited if they brought back the German-made P228.
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Fishbed77 said:
Like I said.

The Exeter-made SIGs don't hold a candle to the German-made SIGs of old, and the P229 pales compared to the old P228 IMHO.
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I tend the agree however I do own a Exeter P228 which was assembled from German parts and it every bit as good as my W. German gun.

There problem with the Sigs made in Germany. First is the high cost of labor and general operation and production costs associated with manufacturing in Germany. The current pistol market simply cannot sustain a profitable margin using German labor selling into the US.

I am not a fan of Cohen lead Sig Sauer but you have to remember that Sig was not making money before he took over. They were on their way to being the German Colt. They made a lot of guns and sold a lot of guns but at the end of the day they were selling $20s for $10. Without the changes that they have made their might be no Sig. :eek:

The second problem is that the machinery to make carbon folded steel slides were at end of life 5+ years ago. The money needed to retool them and get them up to proper specs did not make economic sense for a company shifting all production to milled stainless slide to meet the needs of the US market. On top of that more and more production was happening here so purchasing equipment for over there made little sense.

Again I am not a fan of Cohen but this is the business climate that Sig finds itself in and IMHO the one they will find themselves in for the near future. The good old days are gone..... :(
 
I loved my surplus P6; it was one of the first full size pistols I found that would fit my small hands. Over time, however, I found it was left in the safe more and more as I carried lighter 10 round sub compacts with customizable hand grips during winter.
It's not that it's not a nice piece of machinery, but I discovered other weapons that are as reliable, lighter and have more capacity without an aiming system (dot the i) that was different from the majority of my other pistols with 3 dot sights.
Eventually, I needed space in the safe.
If the P225 is coming back in it's old format, esp. the single stack, that would seem short sighted.
 
Why? I can think of three possibilities off hand and there are likely to be more.

1. Sig wants a part of the market that shoots but whose hands are too small for the current P-crop of aluminum double-stackers.

2. Hedging bets against legislative limitations against large capacity magazines.

3. Using parts left over over that can profitably be put together and sold. They do that now, anyway, on other models. (I was talking to GT Distributors a year or so ago and they couldn't guarantee me any particular configuration if I ordered a P229 since the factory just assembled with whatever they had at hand. I was looking to get one with a short extractor.)
 
2. Hedging bets against legislative limitations against large capacity magazines.
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Eh - A Glock 19 or 23 is still the same size, lighter, and would have 20% more capacity (8 vs 10) with a 10 round mag even if that speculation bore out - which is highly unlikely.
 
I think the P225 has a very dedicated following among SIG lovers - maybe not as big as the P228, but sizable. To me and many SIG fans, the P225 has the best ergonomics of any SIG. The P228 grip may only be slightly thicker than the P225 one, but the shape and design makes the P225 feel significantly better handling for many.

As mentioned before the new P225 is supposed to have a stainless steel slide and there will be an all stainless version. The P225 is a rather large gun for its 8rd capacity especially compared to more modern designs, but I think this re-issue is intended more as a range gun, or for "collecting", not necessarily intended for carry. I suspect it will be a limited run, but I could be wrong.

However, the new P225 is rumored to be based on the P39 frame, and if that is the case, then I will probably not be interested.
 
The P228 is 3 oz. heavier the the the P225, the same length (7.1"), .2" higher and .2" wider,, but can hold 7 more rounds with flush-fit mags, or 10 more rounds with a Mec-Gar slightly extended mag.
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It doesn't READ like much of a difference (size-wise) at all, but I find that it FEELS substantially different.
 
lechiffre said:
It doesn't READ like much of a difference (size-wise) at all, but I find that it FEELS substantially different.
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I don't doubt that -- some guns just don't fit some people, and that may be one of the considerations here.

I don't like the grips on the standard CZ-97B or the Glock 21, and simply can't use them.

I've had a couple of P239s, and they felt TOO SMALL in my hand. Go figure. But as with Goldilocks, the P228 is just right. (But I also have several other guns that feel just right, too...)
 
it has been a very long time since I have been excited about anything Sig has done.

I have an early 90s era P220 and same aged P225 and think they are both great guns. Of late Sig seems more interested in producing silly finishes and "guns of the month" for me to take anything new they offer very seriously.

As far as the reintroduction of the 225, more hype with no substance is my guess. Based on the info provided here, are they really remaking the 225, or just reusing the model name?
 
If SIG were to make an SAO version of P225, I am in! (I already have SAO versions of P220 and P226).
 
The new P225 ("P225A1") is not compatible with the old P225. The new version uses P239 magazines with a different baseplate.

It is now available in stores. I think the SRP is around $1,200, but I've seen them online for around $950 including shipping.
 
I'm excited about everything but the price. I fairly regularly carry a P6 with me and love the size. The capacity of the mag is not a major concern to me.
 
A large, heavy, single-stack 9mm?

Just what today's market demands.

Sig-think, boggles the mind at times.

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$1000! Made me spit out my coffee.

I just bought a (few) EAA SAR 9x19 pistols (clones of the CZ 75 compact) for $275 total out the door each. They hold 14 rounds and the ergos are perfect for this affordable hi capacity wonder pistol.

I have a few P6s but balk at the idea of spending north of $400 for a heavy 8 shot pistol the same size as my new EAAs.

I would say the number of people willing to spend $1000 on a new P6 with those features is nearly zero.
 
I'd be more excited if it actually used P225 mags instead of modified P239 magazines. That and you can find actual German P6s and P225s for around $500 or so.
 
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