Anyone excited about Sig bringing back the P-225?

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I hear that Sig is bringing back the P-225. Just wondering what everyone here thinks of this news? I'm sort of excited because I have an older P-225 and I understand several parts are unchanged so that should make some parts easier to come by. Also, I believe magazines are unchanged and that is probably the best part.

On the other hand, I can't understand for the life of me why they are doing it. Seems like the P-225 is just going to be duplicating some of the pistols that probably were the reason it was dropped in the first place. Like the P-239 for example. I've never shot a P-239 so maybe I don't know the full story.

What's your thoughts?
 
On the other hand, I can't understand for the life of me why they are doing it.
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Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me, but then again, SIG has done some weird stuff in the not so distant past.

I had a couple of P6's, and a P239, and they fell into the whats the point category. Basically full size single stacks. Great shooters, but....meh.
 
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Heck, I didn't know they'e dropped it, much less brought it back.

The single stack, P225 was "agency approved" and one of the choices available when my agency made the jump from round guns to flat ones. The others were P228, 229 (.40) and P226/220 (9mm and .45) Other cals and combos were not yet on the market.

The P225 was billed as a duty sized gun for those with small hands. It always struck me as about the same length as the P228, but not as full in girth.
When the 239 hit the market, it was approved for use as well, but its grip was too small for some, and it was a tad big as a back-up or second gun when compared to the P230 series, also approved.

I haven't kept up with the newer Sig models, but it would seem they would cover the same ground as the old P225.
 
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I have one and IMHO it is one of the best compact 9mm service pistols, and I'd like to see what the new ones are like when they come out.
 
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I have a P6 and it is a great pistol to hold, carry and shoot. I would welcome back the P225, i for one have little need to drag around a pistol with a 15-17 round magazine and try to get my hand around the girth such magazines require. A P225 and two extra magazines would leave me confident as a uniform carry pistol while engaged in LE duties (i carried a S&W 39 for years).
 
I have a German Police trade in P6 and I love it. I had to change out the springs but after that it's been a great pistol. I have and or have owned a 226 and 228 as sa/da guns and a 226 DAK and the P6 will hang with any of the others I've own or have owned. At one forth the cost of the others I rank it as the best buy I have made gun wise. If I were to loose my P6 and the new 225 was available I would probally pick one up. Sometimes as in Cowboy action shooting it's nice to have period guns just because you like them.
 
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I have a P6 and it is a great pistol to hold, carry and shoot. I would welcome back the P225, i for one have little need to drag around a pistol with a 15-17 round magazine and try to get my hand around the girth such magazines require. A P225 and two extra magazines would leave me confident as a uniform carry pistol while engaged in LE duties (i carried a S&W 39 for years).
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Someone in an earlier comment called the P225 a subcompact. It's a compact.

The P228 is 3 oz. heavier the the the P225, the same length (7.1"), .2" higher and .2" wider,, but can hold 7 more rounds with flush-fit mags, or 10 more rounds with a Mec-Gar slightly extended mag.

My P228 doesn't seem to be a handful... I much prefer it to the two P239s I've owned, which seem to be closer to the P225.

I would argue that a very slightly heavier and fractionally wider handgun that holds 187% or 225% of the rounds held by the P225 seems like a very reasonable compromise...:p

There must be a big market for nostalgia.
 
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There must be a big market for nostalgia.
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The Italians have been eating well from it for quite a few years.

I'm sure if Sig reintroduces the 225 theres alot of tooling that will get dusted off and used. The engineering is already done so I would not be surprised if it isn't 65% ready before they start.
 
I'm sure if Sig reintroduces the 225 theres alot of tooling that will get dusted off and used.
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The P225 featured the folded and welded slide of the old P series SIGs. My understanding is that all of that machinery remained in Germany. Unless these are imports, nothing that I know of in Exeter is set to recreate that process.

I'm sort of excited because I have an older P-225 and I understand several parts are unchanged so that should make some parts easier to come by.
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Like I said above, my guess is this is the P225 pattern but on Exeter machinery. I imagine that means stainless slide, external extractor, the list goes on. I can't see much in the slide honestly being transferable. Maybe some components in the frame though.
 
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rep1954 said:
I'm sure if Sig reintroduces the 225 theres alot of tooling that will get dusted off and used. The engineering is already done so I would not be surprised if it isn't 65% ready before they start.
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It is my understanding that they are going to mill the slides out of stainless like all other current production Sigs. There will be a all-stainless version. The slide and frame will both be steel on the stainless version. It is my understanding it will have a P228 trigger guard which will not be squared off like the original P225. It will also be wearing E2 grips. .

They are using a modified P239 mag for the new P225 so old P225 mags will not work and new P225 mags will not work in the older ones. New mags will be made by Mecgar. It sounds like a mashup of a P239 and a P225. I guess it is appealing to the old school who prefer the P classic P Series looks of the P225 vs the P239.

I personally am not interested in purchasing a new one. I am happy with my old one!





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I'd be more excited if they brought back the German-made P228.
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It is my understanding that all Sig production is moving to the US. As a result the Mastershop Guns, P210 and other "German" production guns are in limbo.
 
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I'm happy with my P6s (same design), but recognize that it is deficient in the capacity arena for the size/weight. A G19 is about the same size with nearly double the capacity (8+1 versus 15+1) and about same loaded weight.

The SIG is a great design. I would like it much more if they had made it a double stack - there should be room in that thick grip had they designed it differently.

I doubt I'd buy a new one given the ample other options on the market.
 
That's a P228.

If as WVSig describes, it would be a confusing mess to call it by the old model number.

A good man with a P239 and a block of micarta to copy the sensuous P225 grip in would be as close as that, and a lot less trouble.
 
On I was under standing that they were reintroducing the 225. Guess I was wrong, I'll just stick with my old P6.
 
I'm going to speculate that the reason that Sig is reintroducing the P225 is a pending military or police contract.
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No one in the military or the LEO world is buying single stack 9mm compact pistols anymore. You can get a subcompact like the P320 with higher capacity.

12 rounds in a smaller package with multiple grip sizes etc. The P320 is the heart of Sigs new contract offerings. IMHO Multiple calibers, multiple sizes with a single firing control which has a large amount of parts compatibility.

Only downside is it is a striker. If the don't want a striker I am sure Sig would offer up the P250 or the SP2022 instead. :eek:
 
It is my understanding that all Sig production is moving to the US.
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Like I said.

The Exeter-made SIGs don't hold a candle to the German-made SIGs of old, and the P229 pales compared to the old P228 IMHO.
 
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