Another hunter thinks guns are bad

NRA Disconnect, Really ???

There’s a disconnect between hunters and the organizations that claim to represent us.
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How can there be a disconnect when the very Hunter Ed class she attended, was started by the NRA, not to mention the other instructional programs again, that they sponsor and initiated? ..... :confused:

Then again, the anti-gun groups don't want to talk about that either as it doesn't fit their political agenda. .... :eek:

Lately, the Gun-Shows around here have been flatter than ever. I thought that after all the talking heads popping up these past two weeks, folks were going to panic and rush for deals. The antis keep beating the same old drum for too long as everyone is getting bored with it. Where will "they" go next ??? ... :rolleyes:
 
I don't know her history. It may be just a pretend Hunter to assault the Second Amendment.
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Actually, she is part of the fastest growing segment of hunters in America. Females that have only recently been introduced to guns and hunting. Sadly, like many long time hunters, she see's no problems arising from bans like those on Hi-Cap mags, because being a sport hunter, she finds then unnecessary. Like another fast growing segment of gun owners, first time gun owners buying one firearm for SD/HD, she see's no problem with BGCs and waiting periods. The one thing they both have in common is limited amount of time and experience with firearms and the history of gun control. They do not remember when we could buy rifles from the back page of Sporting magazines, nor the days when you didn't have to pay an extra $15 for a BGC when buying a handgun. Back when any high school kid could take their shotgun to school and could buy the shells needed for the afternoon hunt from the local Holiday gas station. Being impeded by BGCs and waiting periods seems normal because it's all they've ever known.
 
"...unless they shoot Bambi and Tweety Bird..." Firearms do no such thing. They're inanimate objects.
Trace.org is owned by Trace Media Inc. A marketing company. Looks like Lily is trying to sell her books.
 
No different than all the well-heeled shotgun sport enthusiasts I've seen over the years who screech bloody murder about NRA and assault weapons and Saturday Night Specials while holding their $12,000 clays gun and leaning on their $100,000 Mercedes.

They have absolutely no doubt that no one wants their shotguns, because well they're not guns. They're well heeled sporting instruments of the "better" class of people.

Cowardly hypocrites.
 
They rana comercial before the last election showing this bearded guy standing behind a pickup, and holding a pump shotgun with his finger on the trigger claiming to be hunter who supports "reasonable" gun grabbing. A little research showed him to be an anti-gun, unknown, actor. The guy's was so cliche and stereotypical I immediately knew he was a fake, and the finger on the trigger sealed the deal. I do not believe TV commercials, especially those that are political.
 
Some years ago a friend of mine in the newscast business told me. 'don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see, even our objectivity is subjective', on the evening news. Everything is edited and compiled for an emotional response. Everything.
 
No different than all the well-heeled shotgun sport enthusiasts I've seen over the years who screech bloody murder about NRA and assault weapons and Saturday Night Specials while holding their $12,000 clays gun and leaning on their $100,000 Mercedes.
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Peasant hand me my Holland & Holland. :D
 
MIKE IRWIN

No different than all the well-heeled shotgun sport enthusiasts I've seen over the years who screech bloody murder about NRA and assault weapons and Saturday Night Specials while holding their $12,000 clays gun and leaning on their $100,000 Mercedes.

They have absolutely no doubt that no one wants their shotguns, because well they're not guns. They're well heeled sporting instruments of the "better" class of people.
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Keeping firearms from 'THOSE PEOPLE' is the agenda. And we are 'THOSE PEOPLE'
 
buck460XVR has said pretty much everything that I would have said.
Truth: there is a segment of the hunting population that doesn't care about the increasing regulations b/c they don't deal with the increased hassles that much.
Truth: this type of hunter (women and/or urbanites who have no experience with the relative freedoms of gun ownership in the past) are increasing. We can't expect them to have the same 'burr under saddle' irritation at watching increasing layers of rules have no effect on stopping crime or highly publicized mass shootings. We should expect them to be more moved "to do something" when they see these events, b/c they don't know what sort of rules are already in place. Moreover, we can expect them to be in the same camp as the hunters who don't care about broader gun rights. Maybe hunter ed classes need to start with a 5 min history of how gun rights dribble down to affect hunters.

Here's the rub: b/c of their backgrounds and tunnel vision approach to gun rights, they honestly believe their position--it's possible to have guns in a world with more controls and still do your hobby with your one rifle/shotgun/slingshot, therefore the 2nd amendment is still fine.

We might very well run into a hunter like this in the field who couldn't care less about the 2nd amendment nor what its presence or absence mean for the national political condition. Try to be patient when you explain the basics while not trying to raise your voice and scaring off the deer.
 
The person who wrote the article is way to the left on all other political matters, except she (claims) she likes to hunt. I have doubts about her actually being a hunter, since she said very little about hunting. What she is, however, is a typical gun-banner who is too selfish to give up her own gun (if she has one) "for the cause".

The reason no one wants to talk guns with her (from her article) is because she's a self-centered, gun-banning nut who wants her rifle, but beyond her wants and needs, would throw the rest of us under a speeding bus!
 
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The number of hunters out there that feel as she does is probably a lot higher than you care to admit. Because of the relatively new CWC laws in most states, the idea that someone needs to carry 24/7/365 is a fairly new phenomenon. So is the popularity of high capacity magazines and the whole "tactical" thing. The majority of Baby-boomers in this country started out with a bolt action rifle and a pump/SXS shotgun for hunting. Their SD/HD weapon was the same two. They never saw a need for more than that. Many still don't...and baby-boomers make up a large part of gun ownership. Most will not readily throw us under the bus, especially once they realize that any more infringement will sooner or later affect them too. Alienating them by calling them names and chastising them because they are only hunters and not totally consumed by guns, is not going to help our cause in the long run.
 
Mete-very interesting video.

Nice to know someone is actively working to challenge some of the anti-gun laws.
 
I know we are supposed to pretend that gun rights are not conservtive or liberal, but the truth hunters need to undertstand is that you just don't find that many pro-gun anti-hunting animal rights activists out there, and that we usually face the same enemies.
 
If I may add, I do feel some of the older generation of hunters have a small issue with AR variant rifles do purely to the weapons style. Hell the AR looks basically the same to what our boys in the armed forces are carrying.
 
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some of the older generation of hunters have a small issue with AR variant rifles
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There is that.... why? I don't know. Times and tech change; no one drives V8s anymore either...
 
I know plenty of hunters who enjoy AR's, AK's, and other military style rifles as much as anyone, even older hunters. In fact, it's pretty rare that I encounter a "Fudd" who doesn't like modern semi-auto rifles/carbines. I don't know where all these gun-hating hunters hang out, but not in my neck of the woods.
 
.....has no place in the hunting woods.
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Believing that an AR or AK has no place in the hunting woods is a far cry from believing that no one needs to own "one of those". Valid arguments can be made as to why an AR isn't a good hunting rifle. Tradition, caliber, capacity (given hunting restrictions), grip, etc. - are all valid points of discussion. None of which means that people who espouse those views necessarily want to see these rifles banned.

Personally, I think it's a bit silly to hunt with an AR; yet I own 3 of them and plenty of other military style rifles.
 
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