Annual check up question; "Do you have firearms at home"?

hogdogs said:
In florida, refusal to answer that silly question can get you booted off their patient list...

This was taken to court and recently upheld as a "1st A" right...

So I will use my 1st A right to lie like a rug and answer HONESTLY No I do not own A gun...

Brent
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Having recently researched a gun on the 1934 NFA list I can say for sure that I do not own anything that the BATFE classified as a "firearm" in their eyes.

I do have some guns. But no "firearms" that are on the list.
 
Actually, to them it does matter. They call it risk assessment. Your "lifestyle choices" make a difference as to what risk category they put you in. Its not exactly fair, but its the way insurance companies have always done their business. You get put in a risk category, based on what they know about you, and charged based on the category you wind up in.
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But this isn't an insurance application, it's a medical history. Unless I've been in a car accident, the fact I do or do not wear seat belts is irrelevant to my treatment.
 
You're right, of course, things like that are totally irrelvant to treatment....

But, some take the "healthy choices, healthy lifestyle" pretty far. What bothers me is when they decide having guns is "unhealthy"...
 
While this is impolite - if you think it is an antigun issue with the doctor - ask him if he or she thought Dr. Petit in CT should have had gun. Or perhaps having your 11 year old daugher sexually assaulted, recorded on a cell phone camera during the assault and then burned alive is preferred to having no guns. Think about that while you are duct taped. I have no animus to what seems like a good man but any household should be able to defend itself.

Be prepared to get another doctor is he or she is anti.
 
Answer it, don't answer it or simply answer "no" if that makes you the most comfortable. The way I see it, it is none of their damn buisness.
 
The way folks get bent out of shape over semantics and choice of words- it would seem that question, no matter how it was phrased, would be easy to manipulate to your favor. Q: "Do you have any guns at home?" A: No. (I detest the word "gun" for what the media has portrayed it as.) In all actuality, I may have any number of Revolvers, Pistols, Rifles, Shotguns, Firearms, Weapons, Biodegradable Popup Target Engagement Devices, Montana Mutt Mashers, Pasture Poodle Poppers, etc. Semantics...
 
Shane Tuttle said:
The last question asks if I own a handgun. A handgun.
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I could honestly answer "No" to that question, and you probably could as well. I do not own "a" handgun -- I own "multiple" handguns. It's a matter of how you read the question.
 
I scheduled a check up at my Primary care Dr.'s and was sent a form to fill out, asking about moles, smoking, stool size, joint pain, etc. And question #H (Under "Prevention"), is "Do you have firearms at home"? For real?????
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Don't be afraid to leave it blank.
 
lee n. field said:
Don't be afraid to leave it blank.
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My dad used to "just say no." Mind you this is in a town of about 800-900. So the doc knew he was lying, Every farmer in the county has at least one gun in the house. So she questioned him.

He said that's what Nancy Regan said do. Just say no. So that's what he did. And that was his final answer. Hard headed old cuss.

The Doc is not allowed to change your answers.
 
From the article in mrbatchelor's link:

"What I'm struggling with is, is this the new social norm? This is what we're going to have to live with if we have more personal access to firearms," said Hargarten, emergency medicine chief at Froedtert Hospital and director of the Injury Research Center at the Medical College of Wisconsin. "We have a public health issue to discuss. Do we wait for the next outbreak or is there something we can do to prevent it?"
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I don't agree that we have a "public health issue" and I don't regard isolated incidents as "outbreaks." Using such language is an intentional ploy to cast the alleged "issue" as an epidemiological "issue," when it is not. If it is anything remotely related to doctors, it's a mental health issue, but regarding it as such and responding appropriately opens all sorts of cans of worms. It's much easier to condemn the tool than to address the operator.

I'm just not seeing a major issue at all. It's a well-known axiom that "the plural of anecdote is not data." I've just plumbed the limited depths of what remains of my memory banks and compiled a list. If any of you can recall other incidents of mass shootings, please post them so I can update. What I have so far:

Date ... Incident ... Killed ... Wounded
  • 1966 Univ. Texas Tower 16 32
  • 1976 Son of Sam 6 9
  • 1991 Luby's Cafeteria 23 20
  • 1999 Columbine HS 13 21
  • 2002 DC Sniper 10 3
  • 2007 New Life Church, CO 4 5
  • 2007 Virginia Tech 32 25
  • 2009 Fort Hood, Texas 13 29
  • 2011 Tucson, AZ (Giffords) 6 13
  • 2012 Aurora, CO, theater 12 58
  • 2012 Sikh Temple, Wisconsin 6 3

  • ... TOTAL 141 218
For comparison, the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah Building killed 168 people and wounded 680. Which means that one (or two or three, depending on whose story you believe) with a U-Haul truck and some fertilizer and diesel fuel did far more damage both in personal casualties and in dollars worth of damage than have been accumulated over the course of 46 years of mass shootings.

Seems to me the emphasis should be on running background checks of anyone who rents a U-Haul van or buys more than two bags of fertilizer.

What other incidents should be included?
 
I can see why some would justify a doctor giving advice on how to store firearms, etc. but why does a doctor have to ask whether you have firearms?

Let's say you go to a pediatrician. They offer you brochures on how to keep kids safe from household chemicals or electrical outlets. They don't feel the need to ask where your outlets are, what kind of chemicals you keep in the home, etc. Why would they need to know if you have firearms, whether they're handguns, how they're stored, etc.?

Why can't they say here are some brochures on child safety, and leave it at that? :confused:
 
In florida, refusal to answer that silly question can get you booted off their patient list...

This was taken to court and recently upheld as a "1st A" right...

So I will use my 1st A right to lie like a rug and answer HONESTLY No I do not own A gun...
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Sorry Brent - I have never answered the question - just left that section blank - have never had an issue

If my doc persisted, i would then ask him if he still beating his wife - usually that stops the questions as they get the intrusion
 
...keep guns locked up and out of reach of small children or other such common-sense things...
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Whoa, did I ever screw THAT one up...

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Just kidding.

I haven't run into this question at any medical provider yet that I can remember.

I also need to get a lead stick done - for some reason, every time I ask for one, it doesn't happen.:confused:
 
Actually, it is a bolt - CZ 452 Scout. He's a lefty. ;)
When he sows enough maturity the small safe will be moved into his room with his rifle in it. The ammo I will probably keep separate, but he will have his rifle in his room. IF he keeps growing in maturity, that is. ;)
 
Answer a question with a question!

I have always answered yes but now upon reading this I regret that. Next Dr. that asks me this I am going to ask them if they have or have had any Malpractice claims on their record. When they tell me theirs I will tell them mine.

I never had guns in my home till 3 years ago. I grew up with them, was trained with them by Uncle Sam. Would go to the range often with pals but never owned one. What changed 3 years ago?

My then 3 year old son was diagnosed with autism. About 4 month after that diagnosis we had a cable guy in the house installing cable early in the morning n a Saturday. My son sleeping upstairs woke up came down stairs sat down next to the cable guy and was watching him work. I was feet away in the kitchen making breakfast before I woke him for the day. I herd the cable guy say "hey little buddy" and I went in to witness this event.

Here is why that caused me to buy a gun. I realized at the moment my son had no concept of danger. To my son EVERYONE WAS SAFE AND FRIENDLY. If that cable guy was an intruder stealing my TV my son would now be a victim. That is when I realized that there is only one first responder that can truly protect and defend you and your family best, YOU!

All I can say is this. I will follow two rules when it comes to protecting my home. 1st ... The warning for intruders was the door or window they had to overcome to gain entry. 2nd ... I dont believe in "double tapping" because my gun holds 9 rounds not just 2.
 
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