An unknown gun?Pls check it.

That is one long puppy right there! I would like to see pictures of the chambers and the bolts. How are the shells extracted?
 
Fix mistake: Just to look carefully measure this gun, it's about 170cm and 4.5kg.I can hold it With a little effort.Sorry :p
 
He is saying that one barrel is 3.2 cm, or 32mm.
Yup, you're right. That would make a lead ball of muzzle diameter about 3,000 grains.

So the gun is roughly a 2ga that's about 5.6ft long and weighs just under 10lbs.
 
Are the barrels rifled? (do they have spiral grooves in them?)

But I think it's not Made in China.We don't have that made skill in early 1900's.I think Europe or Soviet Union is much more suitable.What do you think?

Looks Chinese-homemade to me. It's weird enough to be Russian, but even cruder than you would expect. It probably uses parts from all over that found their way to China. Japanese war-surplus bolts, homemade receiver, barrels from who knows where (maybe India or Pakistan)...
 
I think that it has British influence and may have come from Hong Kong.
At the very least, it could have come through Hong Kong as a result of it being such a large trading port under British control, and possibly originating from some other location under the control of the British. :)
 
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i know that the 2ga or 2 bore is the largest bore the brits ever used in there bubble barrel rifles (shouder fired, at least). i would agree that is looks to be home-made, and probally made of parts from various guns. if you are allowed to have firearms in your country, i would take it to a historical center and see if they can identify it, it may be wort a lot of money, aside from the centimental value of it being handed down from your grandfather. arround 10 lbs sounds light for a factory made 2 bore, they were usually much havier than that.you are very lucky to have a gun like that.
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By the way,Your says " it may be wort a lot of money".But how much?(Tell me a price what you Estimated)
 
im sorry but i really dont know, but usually, old and unique guns are worth a lot of money, but they are usually worth a lot to gun collectors. to some people they are worth more than they are to others. it varries person to person. if you are able to take it to a museam or historical center, they may be able to give you an approximate value of your gun.
ken
 
Are the barrels rifled? (do they have spiral grooves in them?) (are the insides of the barrels smooth, or do they have ridges looping around the inner surfaces?)

I would not count on it being worth much money at all. It is interesting and unique, if it was in the US, somebody would probably pay a few hundred dollars for it, but the value would be more like a "Khyber Pass" hand-made gun from Pakistan than anything else.

Homemade guns are interesting, but not usually very valuable.

It belonged to your grandfather, so it is probably worth more to you than anyone else.
 
i agree that the centimental value is going to be much higher than any fiscal value, i have been looking at chinese firearms markings and i found similar makrigs dating back to the 1870's, but not exactly the same.
ken
 
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It is not know whether it was manufactured in China. The value is not clear. I will not sell. Thank you for your advice

To B. Lahey
What is spiral grooves?How to check it in the pipes.It's so long to check.

When I was a child, I see some long guns used by Britain Soldiers in 1840's on TV.The 1840 is important to CHINA,what we called Opium War.In that war,some Britain Soldiers used guns something like this,which blackPowder loaded from the top of guns.My gun also used this design.So I guess it's the same period Products.
 
B.Lahey

Looking at the pic below, it appears to be a smoothie... I am almost positive it is a 12ga based on the side on pic showing the triggers and size of the barrels in relation to the triggers.

pksu, maybe if you want to sell it, put it on an auction site (like ebay) and put a rediculously high price on it.... if you get any bidders, you will know if it is sought after or not.... then you can reduce the price after that :D

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but usually, old and unique guns are worth a lot of money

Some unique guns are worth something but just because a gun is old doesn't mean it's worth much. If it's a name brand like Colt or Winchester then it's worth something depending on condition but there's plenty of original percussion and flint muzzleloaders in shootable condition for less than 1000.
Percussion SXS shotguns can often be had for less than 500.
I have no idea what this gun would be worth, never saw one like it but the writing on it is a lot like what is seen on guns made by little one man shops in India.
 
I finally saw the pictures at full size and it looks like it has some beautiful features. The top of the receiver looks especially interesting. The 3 intertwining circles on each side look like proofmarks. While it looks like it was made in China, the numbers have western influence.
I don't think that it's from the 1840's but later.
And I think that it's worth some money, not just to the collector but to a builder who would like to analyze it and reproduce it.
I think that it could be worth anywhere from $500 to $1500 depending on where it's being sold.
That gun doesn't look like it's in as bad shape as some antique wall hangers in worse condition that can and do cost a good sum of money.
$750 - $1250 U.S. Dollars shouldn't be too far off. :)
 
$750 - $1250 U.S. Dollars shouldn't be too far off.
Thank you for your suggustion.I want to sell to Waste station if it was.:D

My grandfather told me that this thing can change your life.So keep it well.
I have been deeply believe this.But now you say only worth 1,000!!!!! Can you give me a little hope of survival.:(
 
My grandfather told me that this thing can change your life.So keep it well.
I have been deeply believe this.But now you say only worth 1,000!!!!! Can you give me a little hope of survival.:(


Maybe your grandfather meant that it would change your life in a way besides money.

Maybe he wanted you to understand that a firearm is much like the manhood which was passed down from father to son to each of us since the beginning of mankind. Manhood is a link in an unbroken chain which never stopped or ended. Manhood is not an invention, it's something that can only be passed down. He wanted you to be able to hold something that he held in his hands...his gift to you.

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. - Bible Proverb
 
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