An interesting home defense gun experiment.

The Not Aiming comparison is a red-herring. It isn't the point and I guess if no-one else will I'll say something at this point...

You DO have to aim a shotgun, but as a shotgun has a spray (say 10" at 5 yards), first, you are more likely to hit your target and, second, effectively with a single shell than with a .223 -- TRUE.
 
What seems to be ignored in this debate is that the lady in the video is a novice at best. The shotgun was too much for her to handle and it has no sights usually, so difficult to aim. Not being a shotgunner she doesn't understand 'point and shoot' shotgun techniques.

She's just as unfamiliar with the revolver and the AR. For her, the AR has a strong edge.

In fact I'd prefer to use the AR, but I don't because it's hard to conceal and not something I want the grandkids to fool around with. Besides that, I am an experience shooter and feel confident that I can hit what I shoot at with all three choices.

Oh, and it seems to put to rest that silly notion that you can't miss with a shotgun. Finally!!
 
I prefer to hit a specific point that I aim at. The hostage rescue shot with a shotgun is fun - best for classes and matches. Not for real life, IMHO.

I don't need an expanding cone at 5 yards, so a pellet or two gets loose.
 
I don't mind a pellet or two getting lost when the other dozen hit home. I DO mind when my bullet misses altogether which is much more likely.
 
That was interesting. It is a good indicator of noob performance with different weapons. Very similar reasoning must have been behind most of LE switch to ARs.

Sure a guy all practiced up with a shottie could have beaten her, maybe. I think that the red dot was moot and she likely would have done just as good with irons.

So the mighty shotty would largely be ineffectual for general HD use by most people. ARs all around, kids! :-)
 
Al Den, at close ranges, the only advantage your shotgun will have for hit percentages is if you are near the ragged edge of your target in the first place. (10" spread at 5yds? What load and choke are you using? Seems wide...)

Sounds like you are banking on spread over training, which isn't a great bet IMO.
 
To be obnoxious, at my last match we did a fairly long for a house (10 yards)hostage shot. It was an IDPA target lying horizontally with just half the top of the head part of a steel popper peeking above the target (hostage).

In my squad there was about 10 to 14 folk. Only two of us hit the BG without hitting the hostage. I was one (:D). Could I do that under stress - who knows. I know I could have blown up the hostage with my shotgun. I've also been impressed by the wad hit from a shotgun. Neat if a good person is next to the bad person. It would sting in your face, betcha.
 
Interesting video, but definitely a few flaws.

That being said, I will stick to my shotgun for HD and I would want my untrained girlfriend to use a shotgun over an AR anyday. If she had training with an AR then my opinion would be different. But shotgun with 00 buckshot ftw.
 
I wonder how long it would take an untrained, inexperienced person to figure out how to chamber a round in an AR and make it fire? Compare that to a DA or SA revolver?
 
How hard is it to pull a charging handle and rotate a safety to "Fire"?

Not exactly difficult...

So, for an untrained person, an AR (or a semi-auto pistol with safety) might pose a challenge.

For a minimally trained person, barring a stoppage, it's not a problem.
 
I wonder how long it would take an untrained, inexperienced person to figure out how to chamber a round in an AR and make it fire? Compare that to a DA or SA revolver?
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Oh, come on...like she would buy an AR and not familiarize herself with it?! The safety falls so naturally under the thumb on an AR that its hard to miss.

In my opinion, since you do have to aim a shotgun, that you might as well use a higher cap lower recoil rifle instead. And if the rack of the shotgun makes em mess their drawers, then the sight of the machine gun would make them faint. :D
 
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