Ammo prices still stink

Cleet

I could be wrong but I believe that the Blazer ammo uses aluminum cases. If that's the case, they are not reloadable.

Your cases (if brass) can last a long time with sensible loads. A set of dies is a one time expense. Primers, bullets and powder are the only re-occurring expenses. After your basic setup your cost per round could be about 26 cents each.
 
"All our metals and shootin' resources are goin' towards nation buildin' for them poor ragh**ds in IIIrak and Affganistan"
Seriously, We just purchased approximately 40,000 brand new Kalashnikov rifles from Bulgaria to rearm the Iraqi "security forces" and we continue to supply all the ammo for both areas of operations. One of the reasons Bush junior couldn't go after Saddam so quickly was that our stock of cruise missiles and JDAMs was too low to support active combat.
So, like everything else, we on the home front take the shortages. Christ, half the GIs were driving around in unarmored Humvees for God's sake!
Sorry for the diversion. I myself have just been buying what I can when I can and living in the People's Republic of Massachusetts doesn't make life any easier! We can no longer even get wholesale ammo shipped to us.
 
You aint kidding, $32.99 for a 50rd box of FMJ Speer Lawman. I live in crappy state too and it is a PITA for everything firearms related. So sick of it! 60 years ago I could walk in a store, pick up whatever I wanted and leave with no problems. People have become a lot more stupid and uninformed. "Uh, I dont like GUNS :barf:". I ask them why, then a look of bewilderment hits their face. They don't know why they dont like em! Then theyll come up with the lame excuse that guns kill people. I tell them the dont, its a tool like a carpenter's hammer. If I set my 1911 down on a table where no one can touch it but me, guess where its staying? It will lay their forever. Unless it grows little gun legs and arms which I dont see happening ;). Rambled Sorry :cool:.
 
YOU DAMN WHIPPERSNAPPERS DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD YOU HAVE IT WHAT WITH YOUR FANCY ASS FACTORY MADE AMMO AND GUNS MADE OUT OF STEEL!

WHEN I WAS A KID, WE HAD TO MAKE OUR OWN AMMO OUT OF COWPIES AND BUMBLEBEES!

AND BUMBLEBEES WAS REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE! AND COWPIES WEREN'T JUST LAYIN' AROUND FOR THE TAKIN!


HEY YOU PUNKS, KNOCK OFF THAT HORSIN' AROUND!



Well, dammit, SOMEONE needed to say it! :p



Yeah, ammo prices are still pretty steep. You ought to try feeding a .45 Long Colt. I'm not set up to reload it yet. Holy crap is that stuff dear!
 
I was reading a distributor catalog and although the ammo is high in it, the dealers are doubling the prices on the retail market.

I also get my hands on Shooting industry magazine. This of course is a magazine for dealers. In there they discuss how to get your money...of course. From my impressions though, they are like sharks in a feeding frenzy. It is like they think this increase in sales will last forever. I can feel a disconnect between dealers and the consumer. Believe me, they are out for the almighty buck and they look at us as sheep to be fleeced.

I hate to think that as I always thought there was a loyalty between them and us. They will keep the prices up as long as we spend our money there.
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Guess you have never owned a retail business before, eh? Mark-up like that is customary, especially for small shops that don't move walmart-size volumes.

No one can fleece you or gouge you, because you WILLINGLY traded money for product. You voluntarily paid the man what he thought the market would bear - that is called capitalism. If you don't like the price, then don't pay it. Find a competitor, or reload your own
 
I don't know why people complain about paying premium for NON STANDARD WILDCAT AMMO.

44spl is a WILDCAT round just like 25, 32, 380, 357sig, and so forth.

If you're not shooting standardized munitions, you will pay dearly.
 
"44spl is a WILDCAT round just like 25, 32, 380, 357sig, and so forth."

Monkey, do you know what the term wildcat means when talking about ammunition?

The .44 Special is most definitely NOT a wildcat round.

Nor is the .357 Sig.

Or the .25 ACP.

Or the .32 ACP.

Or the .380 ACP.


ALL are factory standard production rounds.
 
You right about us still having it pretty good with the ammo actually. Obama wanted it to go up by 500%:eek:. He wanted to do a lot of things with firearms we true americans just wont have ;). I do wish it was a bit cheaper but I am glad it is not absurd.
 
Monkey, do you know what the term wildcat means when talking about ammunition?
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Whatever the definition is, it doesn't matter. When you're paying more for 380 than 45acp, for example, then 380 is not exactly a "standard" round. It's a low volume round for low volume sales. So the manufacturer demands more money for 380 even though it uses less material than 45acp.

All I know in the world of revolvers is that the 38/357 is the standard, anything else is for the niche market and will be priced accordingly.

The only "standard" pistol/revolver rounds are 9mm, 40sw, 45acp (barely these days), 22lr, 38spl/357mag, 9mm makarov, some others I might have forgot.

Everything else is low volume, high price for a specific market.
 
None of which makes any of those cartridges wildcats.

A wildcat is, for the record, a cartridge that an end user invents.

The .25-06 was originally a wildcat before Remington adopted it.

So was the .22-250, also adopted by Remington.
 
I have to believe that .380 ACP is a lot more common that 9mm Mak, and may outsell .44 Mag as well.

You're right about the price being ridiculous compared to .45 ACP, that's why it is such a great round for reloaders. :D
 
I don't ever recall ammunition being cheap. When I bought my first new firearm, a Browning Hi-Power, which cost around $100, a box of 50 9mm cartridges went for almost $5.00 at the local sporting goods store. This was around 1971. If the ammuntion had gone up in cost as much as the pistol, a box would cost around $50.00, which, come to think of it, is about what some costs if you buy it in boxes of 25 from the extra premium makers. I did reload when I was shooting a lot but even that was rather expensive in absolute terms.
 
A wildcat is, for the record, a cartridge that an end user invents.
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I hear ya. I was just generalizing not-so-popular munitions into one end of the spectrum as wildcats.

I don't ever recall ammunition being cheap.
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i recall earlier this decade ammo was cheap enough to shoot a thousand rounds a weekend.

Now that thousand rounds have to be stretched out for the month.

ammo generally is not supposed to be expensive. But because of copper and lead shortages due to modernizing militaries in the eastern hemisphere, and wars, we get stuck with 40+ cent-a-round brass cased, copper jacketed ammo.

Thank goodness for russian steel case!:D

There should be a push away from the brass cased, copper jacketed FMJ training round, and replacing it with a steel cased, steel jacketed FMJ training round made in the USA. That should take about a dime or two off per round.
 
I started really shooting about 1980 or so. I have factory ammo boxes (mostly shotgun hunting rounds) that are STILL 30% higher than the stuff in the stores or on line. Now, component prices lately have gone up as the world-wide demand, especially for lead, is keeping those prices high.
 
Old Jeff you are right about Blazer not being brass. I was referring to my other HD ammo which is even more expensive per round. The Blazer was $37 for 50 the Cor Bon I have was $32 per 20. I probably got rooked on that but it was all that was available at the time.
 
If any of you can remember prior to 1986?

Remember what the ammo prices were like back then, before the prices were driven down post FOPA by the surge of surplus and inexpensive foreign made ammo?

A box of Federal Eagle (equiv. to Winchester White Box today) 9mm for $20?
 
If you really want to feel bad and you have some old boxes of ammo lying around from say, 5 years ago or more, check out the price stickers on them.
 
Hell, at a couple of points I'd occasionally find a deal on Rem-UMC or, better yet, Winchester White Box, 9mm for $4.99 a box of 50.

Yeah. Those were the days.

9mm ammo was so frigging cheap that I stopped reloading it.
 
Interesting discussion.

I remember Colt 1911's selling for $82.00 NIB. Lake City .45 Ball for $3.00, 10 gallons of regular gas for 3 bucks and Green stamps. In those days maypops for $5.00 including the rim and new tires might last 12,000 miles if you were lucky.

How about No.1 MK III Enfields for 24.95, Walther P-38's for $34.95, Lugers for $39.95, M1941 Johnson for $59.95 and Walther 380 PP $82.00 NIB. How about primers for a penny a piece.

Median income of families in the suburbs was $7,800/year back in those days.


Anyone ever hear of inflation?Since 1964? Up about 600%

As to availability of Ammo, greater demand because more folks are buying and stockpiling.
 
I was getting the urge to shoot my .45-70...looked at the price of a box of it and the urge passed :eek:

I was at Gander Mountain the other day looking for some .45ACP the Blazer with the Brass case was less than the Blazer with the non brass case. :confused:
 
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