American Gun makers going down hill

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This is about a Marlin. Model 795 22lr. I know this isn't a $1000 rifle but there QC has left the building. Assembly post was never installed so the action was not secured to the receiver. Test fired maybe because all I could get was 1 round to fire and with the post missing the trigger would not reset.
The left side of the breech bolt looks like it has been sitting in salt water for 6 months. Severe galling. Sent it back to Marlin on there dime and all they addressed was the assembly post. They also had the testicular fortitude to send me a survey card wanting to Know How Are We Doing and the tech must think he's wonderful because he signed his name.
First and last Marlin product I will ever own. I am now waiting for customer service at Remington in NC to see if they acknowledge my letter that accompanied the survey card.
Just a bit of venting from a frustrated consumer.
 
Remy has been goin down hill along with the company it has picked up when I got my 1894 the front sight wasn't atached and the barrel was croked. They'll probrobly changes things back after they ruin there reputaion. I think.
 
Remington is at kind of a critical corporate juncture at this point. They can either pour some money into customer service and quality control, or they can try and glide by with the old Marlin name for as long as it will carry. I for one won't be buying any of their rifles any time soon until I hear about the end of the teething problems if that's what they are.

Let's hope they're wisdom teeth.

~LT
 
I have seen some shoddy workmanship from some major manufacturers lately. I have 3 friends who have had problems with 870's. I bought two rifles from S&W that sucked and they refused to stand by them. Then I read on forums about how great their CS is. I think they're just really busy and the money is rolling in so easy right now that the CS has slipped. Just my 2cents
 
I have a brand new ruger hawkeye on its way to me. Hopefully upon its arrival I will find many reasons to disagree with this thread.
 
Apologize for the interjection as I really have nothing to contribute to the discussion at hand but must agree with the following from Slamfire...

These private investment firms are only interested in squeezing out as much profit as they can in the shortest time possible. They are not in it for the long run.
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Get in fast, get rich fast, get out fast. Nothing else matters. The company, the product, the consumer all suffer.
 
This has not been my experience with Ruger. Every manufacturer has a model or models that I won't touch. I have yet to find a Ruger that was no good. They seem to have their stuff together.
 
This has not been my experience with Ruger. Every manufacturer has a model or models that I won't touch. I have yet to find a Ruger that was no good. They seem to have their stuff together.
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I agree.

While I have had to send a gun back to Ruger, they were very good about fixing the issue. S&W's customer service has been good as well.

Lots of manufacturers are turning stuff out that shouldn't make it out the door, but I notice very few problems with Ruger, S&W, and Colt. Savage, although I've not had to send them anything or test their customer service, seems to be putting out a good product as well.

Any man made item can, and will, fail at soem point. That's why I tend to look at the after the sale support the manufacturer gives. That is very important to me, having had to send a few guns back to be repaired.

Biker
 
I got a new marlin 983 a few months back that works fine. A buddy got a new marlin .45-70 that had serious problems right out of the box. And there are tons of reports of new remingtons and marlins having obvious problems that made it past a careless qc. It seems like a gamble to buy one. I sure would like a new .338 marlin express lever rifle but in this economy right now when I buy a new gun I sell an old one to fund it. I would hate to part with a perfectly good firearm just to get a problem child.
 
I've had nothing but problems with my Marlin 983 since I got it in January. I've sent it back twice now, waiting on them to get it back to me the 2nd time to see if it's fixed yet.

I'm not to confident though, in which case I'm just gonna trade it in for a CZ or Weatherby. It might cost a little extra, but at least I know it won't be a piece of crap.
 
Hunterguy I have read about the troubles with your new marlin 983 and I feel for ya. Unbelievable that they would let it out the door like that. It sounds like it has turned out to be a waste of your money and time. What a bummer. I think I must have got lucky with mine but I don't think I'll be buying a new remington or marlin now without serious consideration.
 
it's kinda sad to hear of all the problems you guys have been having. it makes me want to reconsider purchasing a Marlin 336 lever gun in the future. guess I can always stick to used
 
Ruger?? Really?? Missed all those recalls lately??

American companies pay more in one hour for labor than the Chinese do in a week. Way too many folks come on here and brag about some cheap piece of Chinese gun they bought for next to nothing and then complain when the US companies can't compete - so they try. But the only way to do that is cut EVERY corner they have to keep the price as low as possible. You are your own worst enemy in that regard.

You want high quality? it doesn't come cheap, especially from a US maker - either be willing to pay for it, or settle for less.

(My sig line really is true)
 
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