Am I too sensitive . . . or what?
- Thread starter bedbugbilly
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RampantAndroid
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I clear a gun BEFORE I hit record. Always. Why should I have to show the people on youtube it's clear? I already cleared it, and I know it's clear. I'm making a video about a gun, not about gun safety. I'm not making a video just to hear myself talk.
You'll kill the camera! Esp if it's on a tripod...
Two reasons...and both have already been clearly stated.
1. Cause you may have kids watching your vids. that try exactly what they see you do on your vid. and end up shooting someone.
2. Since you're making a gun vid., the anti's and (many unknowledgeable gun people) will be the first to point out how they watched some 'gun expert' on a vid. point a loaded gun right into a camera. Its just plain potential, bad, propaganda that can be used against all gun owners that can be stopped simply with a few more seconds of responsible filming.
Think about it this way... there are certain rules here on TFL that should/need to be in place in order for the protection of the reputation of this website and gun owners in general. Our conduct/conversation with firearms should always be foremost in our actions,especially when it comes to safety, as the public is quick to point out when we're not. Then use that occasion that may be safe but can be turned to appear not to be to clump all gun owners into one pile.
I quarantee you there are anti's that cruise this site as well as others(Youtube vids. included) just looking for things to use against us.
Common sense says "why supply them with that ammo?"
JustThisGuy
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Bedbugbilly, I agree with all you have said.
But... could you use a paragraph break just at least once in a while? My poor tired eyes...
But... could you use a paragraph break just at least once in a while? My poor tired eyes...
I don't watch much YouTube mainly because of my poor internet or computer it spends more time buffering then playing.
BUT:
Regarding guns pointed at the camera. I've done that quite a bit in Firearms and EOD Training. It's a good training aid for both.
I think some people over react, I use a tripod, its not like I'm setting there holding the camera.
It's a good way to show the shooter what he or she is doing while firing. You can tell a lot more looking at ones face then the back of his head.
I haven't lost a camera yet, or in shooting that is, we did destroy one with over pressure in EOD training but the people involved were a ways away behind cover.
But I guess we can take anything and make more of it then it is.
BUT:
Regarding guns pointed at the camera. I've done that quite a bit in Firearms and EOD Training. It's a good training aid for both.
I think some people over react, I use a tripod, its not like I'm setting there holding the camera.
It's a good way to show the shooter what he or she is doing while firing. You can tell a lot more looking at ones face then the back of his head.
I haven't lost a camera yet, or in shooting that is, we did destroy one with over pressure in EOD training but the people involved were a ways away behind cover.
But I guess we can take anything and make more of it then it is.
Great Thread
As firearms enthusiasts, we should promote safe and responsible gun handling practices and promote our own personal image as such. I am not really sure slapping people around is the way to go (may be appropriate in some cases, but not what I would recommend). I think we need to try to avoid the image of radicals, "cowboys", "ganstas", militia, or anything else the non-gunners view negatively. Dangerous gun handlers are also a negative to the non-gunners. Also shooting accidents can really ruin the day for almost anybody in the area of one. As for Youtube, TV, and movies, I enjoy "shoot 'em ups" still, but remember it is "only in the movies". What could we really do about it anyway?
Also, by "cowboys" I don't mean real cowboys. I live in Texas, and know plenty that totally responsible and safe.
As firearms enthusiasts, we should promote safe and responsible gun handling practices and promote our own personal image as such. I am not really sure slapping people around is the way to go (may be appropriate in some cases, but not what I would recommend). I think we need to try to avoid the image of radicals, "cowboys", "ganstas", militia, or anything else the non-gunners view negatively. Dangerous gun handlers are also a negative to the non-gunners. Also shooting accidents can really ruin the day for almost anybody in the area of one. As for Youtube, TV, and movies, I enjoy "shoot 'em ups" still, but remember it is "only in the movies". What could we really do about it anyway?
Also, by "cowboys" I don't mean real cowboys. I live in Texas, and know plenty that totally responsible and safe.
To Bedbugbilly
I totally agree with you, while sites like YouTube have been instrumental in disseminating information, it has also brought the nim nuts out of the woods. I use YouTube as well to find out what else is going on in the firearms world. But the moment I see someone violating any of the firearms rules I just stop listening and go to the next video.
The issue is you have people with firearm background, hunting or law enforcement or military experience and then you have everybody else i.e. internet groupies that want to make videos because they want attention to show off their new gadget. I don't know why others are criticizing you. One always has an obligation in making sure that the audience or viewers get the right information and procedures in handling firearms because a viewer might be very inexperience and may repeat all the errors seen and head.
What is wrong with you saying this?
I totally agree with you, while sites like YouTube have been instrumental in disseminating information, it has also brought the nim nuts out of the woods. I use YouTube as well to find out what else is going on in the firearms world. But the moment I see someone violating any of the firearms rules I just stop listening and go to the next video.
The issue is you have people with firearm background, hunting or law enforcement or military experience and then you have everybody else i.e. internet groupies that want to make videos because they want attention to show off their new gadget. I don't know why others are criticizing you. One always has an obligation in making sure that the audience or viewers get the right information and procedures in handling firearms because a viewer might be very inexperience and may repeat all the errors seen and head.
What is wrong with you saying this?
Wow! You would think on a gun website of all places that this really would not be that hard.
I'm glad that you would already ASSUME the gun was unloaded.
What about that kid thats never been taught anything about a gun?
He comes across one and accidently shoots himself. They search his computor and the last thing he watched was your vid. showing you with a gun pointing it around into the camera and wherever else you point it and no where in your vid do you talk one time about safety checking your weapon to make sure its not loaded.
Wouldn't it haunt you for the rest of your life as to if you had at least started your vid with some basic gun safety that just 'maybe' that kid would have seen that part and he may be alive today?
I know thats a 'cheap shot' but that scenario(or one similar) is possible.
I've set in classes and watched training films where not only real unloaded/dissabled guns were pointed at objects but at people also. Have been involved in some training/skit playing where the same unloaded/dissabled guns were used to do the same. Everyone in the room was there for the same reason, everyone in the room was a bit gun savvy and yes we all knew the pistols wouldn't fire.
Training films in this venue is hugely different then putting potentially unsafe vids. on the worldwide Internet for anyone to see thats old enough to turn a computor on. These days thats a whole 7-8yrs old.
If your going to do a weapon vid. and put it on YouTube, how much more time does it take to ensure all your audience knows your doing it safely?
Maybe 30 seconds???
Man, thats alot to ask given the fact that you may have kids watchin it someday.
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