Am I paranoid?

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No need to be paranoid as we have a huge increase in firearms ownership, reductions in restrictions, and the example of political reaction in 1994. But, it is wise to be ever vigilant regarding our rights and liberty.

Also, the 2A is not about whether the people could win against tyranny, rather that they have the right to be armed to at least try and to discourage wanton oppression. Every aspiring tyrant should have to run the calculus of the cost to oppressing an armed population.

I am highly encouraged by the vast numbers of young shooters who enthusiastically embrace firearms and shooting activities. Some of us older shooters must have done something right to pass on our priorities and responsibilities. I agree with the other poster who said the real victory lies in the hearts and minds of our youth.
 
If they take away your firearms rights, then they will be taking away your other rights.
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I do believe the statement above is a true one. Is it likely to happen in this country?

I think not; I wouldn't want to be in any force (civilian or military) invading the hills of Vermont to confiscate the firearms from the population, most of whom have at least one firearm in the house, and many have small arsenals, especially in the more rural parts of the state.

Does it mean we should be complacent about any of our rights? Certainly not; the "do-gooders" are always looking for new and creative ways to protect people from themselves, after all.

The statement someone made above about not caring if his gun rights got taken away still blows my mind. Such shallow, unthinking ignorance. God save us from people like that.
 
Dim the lights, and lock the doors. I'm seeing the conspiracy theorists coming over the hill.
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Are you people sure you're on the right forum? Check out pollyana.com. That's more your speed.

Without gun rights, there is no gun ownership.

The Jews gave up their rights, their children and their lives because they thought that as long as they obeyed the laws, everything was going to be ok.

The Nuremburg Laws were passed in 1935. The war ended in 1945. That was less than 70 years ago and you suggest it can't happen again?

That stupidity is the reason it's going to happen again.
 
I think not; I wouldn't want to be in any force (civilian or military) invading the hills of Vermont
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The gun grabbers work incrementally. You and I think in terms of the next election. The gun grabbers think in terms of the next generation. They've worked for decades to accomplish their anti-freedom agenda.

No, they might not try (what you imagine) in your lifetime. But what about after they've had another 50 years of brainwashing children in the government run and controlled public school systems?

Do you think it might be different then?

Look back on America of 50 years ago and chart how much we've changed. Can you imagine what the next 50 will bring? The next 100? Especially if we've got gun owners who could care less what happens to their guns?

I was living in California when they passed their totalitarian gun laws(drop safety requirement; outlawed the 50 cal; AWB ban). And the majority of gun owners then thought, "it'll never happen to me." Yeah, it did happen. And that was just 12 years ago.

GEM - correct spelling,please
 
The gun grabbers work incrementally...But what about after they've had another 50 years...Do you think it might be different then?
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You are absolutely right about that. That's why I would rather appear to be a bit militant about firearms rights now than to have regrets later on.

Plenty of naive people out there, though, that think governments actually have the best interests of their citizens at heart.
 
California's (the correct spelling) gun laws didn't happen in a vacuum. The representatives and senators from that state aren't of another species.

They were elected. The majority of active voters in California want the laws that they have.

If they didn't, they would elect someone else.

California's gun laws were passed with the blessing of the majority of active voters in California. California (as well as the United States) is not a totalitarian state, and is in absolutely no danger of becoming one. The laws reflect the will of the active voters.

Don't look at the politicians. Look at your neighbor.

This is why how we sound, how we communicate, how we act, the words we choose and the examples we set are so important.

I don't see why more shooters don't get that.
 
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The representatives and senators from that state aren't of another species
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That's open to debate ;)

You are quite right, in that the voters are responsible for electing the legislators that enact these bad laws.

As long as most voters stay disengaged from the process, and the rest assume that government will take good care of them, you'll get the same results.
 
Sorry but I wasn't trying to redefine something to fit an agenda; I don't have one. I was, however, trying to discover how other people define things. I'm not even sure now if we all define tyranny the same. Obviously we don't all share the same opinion about what the 2nd amendment says. Not what it means, what it says!

On laws in general, your disagreeing with them doesn't make them unjust or wrong.
 
Going nowhere productive and folks are getting snippy.

Lights out. Sorry.

Also, we don't do Kalifornia, People's Republik, etc. Let's be a touch more polite to folks who live in these places and support the RKBA there.

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GEM
 
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