Alright Moderators -- that's it!

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Ya'll are being suspiciously choosy in what you lock and why you lock. What's up? You are being way to PC for my comfort...starting to feel like a "no confrontation" board.

What I would like to know is this: what is the criteria for locking threads?


Hueco

(and yes, I do in fact have a problem with authority. :D )
 
What are you talking about?
Some threads get locked due to questionable content... Reread the agreement you signed when you registered.
Other threads get locked to to SIZE... when a thread reaches over 100K its locked and a Part II is invited.
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask via email ANY member of the staff, and please reread the policies - they are at the top of forums page right next to the LINKS AND LIBRARY hyperlinks... see - where it says FORUM POLICIES. Here it is: http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/Policy.html
Now - you may read a thread that got locked for content... and not see anything wrong. Thats because one of the staff may have edited (you'll see the "edited by" tag) or deleted the offending post where there will not be a giveaway tag.
These actions are the sole choices of the staff who act in proxy for Rich who owns this site.

If you registered to post here at TFL - then you agreed to the policies here. If these policies are not to your liking - then you may elect to leave TFL. This is Rich's House, and we are ALL his guests. So behave as such.

[This message has been edited by George Hill (edited July 28, 2000).]
 
I was going to put all the thread-titles here that are non-RKBA related. But, looking down the list on the General forum, I saw that most are not.

To the point, everytime someone brings the subject of gays into this board...the thread is locked, and the reason given is that it is not RKBA related.

The General forum is "A place for general discussion and Member hob-nobbing." No where in there does it say that the posts need to be RKBA related.

So honestly -- what is the criteria for locking threads? Obviously NOT if it is or isn't RKBA related.


Hueco
 
I think that, in order to be an effective force on the side of freedom, we need to learn to respect each other's opinions.

That means we (or I, at least), take a dim view of personal attacks on other members. It is perfectly fine to say "I disagree with XYZ's views because..." but the reasons better not be that XYZ is a moron or that all people of XYZ's religion, lifestyle, race, etc. are lame.

I will agree that some lifestyles are distasteful to some or many of us. Please keep in mind that people representing such lifestyles are members or lurkers on TFL. Moreover, many things which get on our nerves do not actually harm us. For example, I might find people who worship carrion strange and unpleasant...but they don't harm me in any way.

Because of all, I ask that you refrain from insulting our "strange bedfellows" in the pro-RKBA fight. It may give you a temporary satisfaction to say that such and such are disgusting, but the long-term damage from driving all but those exactly like us away will be severe. We are in a fight for our way of life: please do not drive away your squad-mates, even if you do not like them personally. That they are on your side is all the recommendation that they need.

Of course, if you feel that "with allies like these, who needs enemies", you might want to reason with them and discuss tactics. Just don't drive them away for the sake of expressing righteous indignation.

However, I would like to add that your perception of "too PC" may be shared by some members. For example, they may feel that there would have been a benefit to reaching a consensus on gays being "bad". While that may be a good bonding process for some of our members, it will offend many other members (I think you would be surprised and how actively pro-RKBA many GLBTs are). What I would like to request is that we do not condemn any part of TFL membership (Ms. Forum visitors included). I realize that this requires a compromise which will not fully satisfy anyone...but sometimes NOT dealing with an issue in favor of attending more urgent matters (RKBA) is wise.

Further, if you feel that I use TFL as a bully pulpit, please let me know by email. If I acted in error (which sometimes happen), you'd give me a chance to set things right yet save face.
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Oleg "peacemonger" Volk

http://dd-b.net/RKBA

[This message has been edited by Oleg Volk (edited July 28, 2000).]
 
BTW, a minor bitch here....

When starting PART x, would you PLEASE insert (in the first post) a LINK to the previous part? That's a little courtesy that would make things a BUNCH easier to follow.

After all, the locked thread will age, and drop off the screen.

Thank you.
 
I'll leave that up to the person who elects to start a part II - sometimes I get too busy to reopen a part II to a thread I just closed.
 
http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/Policy.html

#3 is the main reason people cross the line... But #4 is the catch all rule:
4) As we can never convey a philosophy through a few rules, we reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to edit or delete posts and/or to revoke Membership. No Second Chances; No Argument; No Trial; No Way. At best you will receive one warning.



[This message has been edited by George Hill (edited July 28, 2000).]
 
By the way, TFL ought to be a non-confrontation board. Husband your energy for confronting the enemy: TFL is for being among allies, both for improving our moods and for planning strategy.
 
To All:

I'd like to echo some of Oleg Volk's comments. He's made some important points; and while some of you may disagree, please hear me out.

First of all, I think we can all agree - regardless of political affiliation, sexual orientation, economic class, or racial heritage - that our rights are under assault.

If another American is denied his rights, mine suffer equally.

Isn't that one of our prime motivations for participating in this struggle to preserve our nation's freedoms?

I can certainly understand that certain conduct can make others uncomfortable. Whether it's religious proselytizing, flaunting of sexual differences, or hammering on racial nit-picking, there's always going to be something or someone out there that offends you.

I, personally, suggest we live with it - and focus on protecting each other from the tyranny that is slowly but surely being foisted upon us.

Not on enhancing and amplifying our differences. If we can argue that another person's rights are less important because we have a personal dislike for them, then we do tremendous damage to our cause, our shared community, and to the entire legitimacy of our Bill of Rights.

Just my $.02.

Best regards to all,

Robert Teesdale
robert_teesdale@yahoo.com
www.teesdale.com

[This message has been edited by Robert Teesdale (edited July 28, 2000).]
 
To make an absurd example: "would you support RKBA of [insert your least favorite social group]?" If you do not -- congratulations! These deviants have just become a precedent on which your loss of RKBA would be based. THAT is why we best hang together.

I would also like to note that anything happening in Rich Lucibella's virtual living room reflects on him. Imagine how he would feel if we decide to get belligerent or rude!

[This message has been edited by Oleg Volk (edited July 28, 2000).]
 
Least favorite social group??

Hmmmm. :confused:

You mean, statists??

:D

Later,
Chris

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"TV what do I see, tell me who to believe, what's the use of autonomy when a button does it all??" - Incubus, Idiot Box
 
IT'S A CONSPIRACY! THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING THIS TO US! WE'VE GOT TO RISE UP AND... HEY! NO! I HAVE TO LET PEOPLE... MRFPH!!!

BIF! BAP! POW! KABLOOIE!


Sorry about that, gents. Damned conspiracy theorists took over my computer. :)

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Gorthaur - We understand that and have gone over it many times in the past. In fact the threads will page split at the 50 post mark now. However, page 1 will still load slowly for those with slower modems. Yes, you can go to page 2 before page 1 finishes. But that doesn't always solve the slow loading time for some users.

In short, we'll continue doing it as we do now.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg Volk:
We are in a fight for our way of life: please do not drive away your squad-mates, even if you do not like them personally. That they are on your side is all the recommendation that they need.[/quote]

Wish I would have said that! My sentiments exactly.



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Just one of the Good Guys
 
Oleg, if I remember correctly, you are not a native of the USA, and I am assuming English is not your native language. Well, friend, you certainly have a marvelous command of the language of which I, a degreed English guy, is envious.
 
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