All the ammo in Wal Mart, Academy, etc. is gone.

The supply varies by store / local Sportsman's warehouse last week had very little of anything / Cabellas a few miles down the road was fully stocked on everything.

Prices are something else ... China using a lot of lead, production for the war, industry price increases. etc.

I reload for everything I shoot except .22 lr / look over the Dillon lineup of machines for metallic / MEC for shotshells.
 
I don't know this to be true, but a rumor going around here in N. Texas is that Cheaper than Dirt is going around to all the Wal-Mart stores buying up all the ammo they can. If this is true, CTD just lost a good customer.
 
The Wal-Marts in my area seem to get ammo somewhat frequently, at least more frequently than I go to the range. I live about 10 minutes from three different stores, and so within about a week or two of each other, they get small stocks of the .223 Fed Value 100rd packs and 50rd .45 Blazer Brass. About two weeks ago I managed to be in the right place/time and picked up three boxes of the Blazer, and just yesterday my friend picked up 8 boxes of the .223 value pack to split up with us. So far so good, not like I need to buy ammo every day :D
 
"you're just finding this out?"-afs

Yeah all my 9mm/.40cal ammo is provided by my employer but I recently bought a .380 not knowing that the ammo is so scarce. Anyone want to buy a .380? :)
 
G-man 26 said:
I HATE wal-mart. I'd pay four to six dollars more to a local gun shop just to keep the money out of wal-mart.
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Agreed, I hate WM - but their ammo prices are good.

They were all out of .22LR this week, so I went to my local gun shop where it was only slightly more expensive - I'd rather support the local gun shop than WM.
 
All mine has is shotgun shells and .22lr. There is a memo taped to the counter explaining that "due to fears over restrictions and price increases, they cannot keep up with the demand". Bad news.
 
Holden has already said they are just waiting for issues wiht the economy and budget to gell a bit and then they will trun to the firearms issue.
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Actually Holder said that the AWB was still a goal of this administration; but that he did not know when they would get around to doing it. This comment was immediately stomped on by Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the House), of all people, who said we should concentrate on enforcing existing laws and that nobody had spoken to her about a ban. Harry Reid (Senate Majority Leader) went one further and said "I will not support that."

Add to this, that when the House tried to pass a rule stripping the firearms language from the D.C. Voting Amendment, it was the Blue Dog Dems who stopped that cold (after being told by the NRA that the procedural vote would count in their voting records).

Politically, this means that with the current makeup of the House and Senate, no semi-auto ban is possible unless Obama really starts twisting the arms of his own party leadership (which is what Clinton had to do to pass the first one). Given all the arm-twisting he is going to have to do in his own party to achieve his other goals (carbon caps, stimulus spending, etc.), I just don't see them spending the political capital on gun control when there are so many other goals that need it more.

Add to all of this, that the Presidential party has lost seats in the House during the midterm elections almost every time (four exceptions 1902, 1934, 1996 and 2002), and the Democrats have a lot more to worry about than gun control. That doesn't mean that I think they have given up on it; but they sure don't want to pick it up right now and they won't be wanting to do it any time soon.

For that matter, anybody remember who said "If an Assault Weapons Ban reaches my desk, I'll sign it." Hint - it was the same guy who when given two pieces of legislation he said he would sign (AWB and Lawsuit Protection for Firearms Manufacturers), wrote Congress and asked them to send him only the Lawsuit Protection. It just goes to show that even our more reliable allies seem to perceive that there is some political gain in appearing to support a semi-auto ban. Luckily for us, they seem to understand that there isn't much political gain in ACTUALLY supporting a ban.
 
The gun thing I can understand.

The ammo thing I cannot understand.

There just is not that many people shooting guns to dry up all that ammo supply that fast.

It's important to remember that alot of ranges sell reloads instead of selling alot of new rounds to shooters.

I think it's the ammo manufacturers taking advantage of a demand side spike to run up prices when they could just as well pump out twice as much ammo and we could all get ammo at the same price we did last year at this time.

Makes me glad everytime I read about those here that reload and say they have'nt been affected much.

At least those shooters have a solution.
 
Academy and 9mm

Just got back from a visit to my local Academy. They had plenty of 9mm available in Monarch, Magtech, and Blazer. Check your local Academy for availability before making a long trip.
 
B.N. Real said:
I think it's the ammo manufacturers taking advantage of a demand side spike to run up prices when they could just as well pump out twice as much ammo and we could all get ammo at the same price we did last year at this time.
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No, it's not.

I know it's fashionable in America to blame rich people, big business, fat cats, and what not for every misfortune (hey, at least we don't blame Jews anymore; we're making progress) but this shortage is just a natural result of modern business practices.

See, once upon a time, it was common for American businesses to produce everything they could. Then they would send it to wholesalers, who would in turn sell to retailers who would buy all of it they could afford.

In the days before instantaneous, nearly-free, cross-country communications and three-day coast-to-coast delivery, this made sense.

Then in the '70s and '80s, American manufacturers got their butts kicked by the Japanese, led by Toyota, who had made a religion out of Just-In-Time inventory control. Now everybody uses it.

Federal will look at last year's Q1 business and only order enough components to produce what it thinks it can sell this quarter. The wholesalers will only buy based on what they can sell. Same with the retailers. A big enough demand surge at the retail end can suck the pipeline dry all the way back to the component end of the process.

If I only sold 10 boxes of .44 Magnum a week at Anytown Firearms, I'd only keep an inventory of 11 or 12 on hand. Those unsold boxes are liabilities, after all; money tied up that's not turning a profit. If somebody comes in and buys all 12 boxes, I'm out 'til next week.

If he does that to every store in the area, and we all need to reorder from the same wholesaler to restock our shelves, we'll probably empty the wholesaler's shelves as well. And the wholesaler doesn't get weekly deliveries, he gets monthly deliveries. Meanwhile, since each dealer in Anytown only got an allocated 4 boxes of .44 Magnum, and word has gotten around at the range that there's a .44 Magnum drought, those four boxes are going to fly off the shelf. Now we're stuck until the wholesaler can get more from the manufacturer. Next month. See?
 
Wally World here was all but empty last week!

Hardware store, empty!

New deal Sporting goods has what you need but seems to be going out about as fast as it comes in.:rolleyes:
 
why not do as many are start loading your own.I load for about 20 cal,and have 10 presses and 30 molds.I have been using Lee products(for the price)
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I've been trying to go this route, but I can't find any dies in stock for 9mm or 45. Have cases, powder, & primers, and a Lee Pro 1000, just no dies.

Our local walmart has just opened a reloading section, but they've never even gotten it fully stocked. (keep selling out of everything)

I also can't find any bullets to load in the cases we've been saving. Well, walmart has gold dots for $19.95 per 100.

I've been snatching up a few boxes of ammo as I find it at a good price local. Way I see it, I'll eventually have more cases to reload once I get dies and bullets.
 
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