A Woman's CCW

Will you allow your wife to pack a .22 as her primary ccw?
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+1 to all the previous posters supporting the FREEDOM of CHOICE! Allow...my arse... :rolleyes: There ain't no "allow" to it...

Example of attempted death and subsequent massive attack on the 2nd Amendment, by .22:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinckley,_Jr.

Example of death by .22:
http://www.kmbc.com/news/15701029/detail.html

My husband and I both enjoy shooting. We have a decent accumulation of firearms. We support the 2nd Amendment and the NRA. We discuss the pros and cons of each style, caliber, and carry option...then he picks out HIS defense equipment and I choose mine. If one of us was not a firearms enthusiast, we would still discuss firearms purchases.

BTW, I was in an abusive relationship before (too). It ain't fun and it's damn hard to get away.
 
A face full of .22 bullets will put a damper on anyone's day
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This is what really matters, I've carried a Berreta 22 on occasion. As long as you can hit with it, fine. I think anyone ( man or woman) should carry what they're comfortable with. It may not be my 1st choice, but I'm not the one carrying it...they are. I don't want anyone telling me what to carry, and don't make that choice for anyone else.
 
oh God...that wasn't want I meant.

I used the wrong phrase - what I was trying to say : Will you be concern that your wife carrying only a .22 (you know, instead of a larger caliber)?

:eek:

ps. I am not abusive, I am just worry about my pretty wife:p
 
Oh! Thanks for clarifying!

Sorry, Ohio....I (and a bunch of others) obviously misunderstood your original post and questions.

There are a lot of threads discussing the "right" SD selection for a woman. Try a thread search for those and you and she can learn quite a lot.

Does your pretty wife shoot? :) If she does, then take her to a range that has rentals and let her try out different ones. She should pick out guns that feel "natural" in her hand. That eliminates some. How much recoil can she manage? That eliminates others. Would she carry concealed, and if so, by what method? That eliminates others. She can select a few models she thinks she would like and try those in the range. Caveat: Usually, the range requires you purchase their ammo to shoot in their rentals; and the range rentals are not typically well-maintained.

If your pretty wife (I love your description!) doesn't shoot, then you can educate her. Have her talk with women store clerks and other women shooters, too. She can learn a lot that a man just can't teach, because there's no frame of reference.

Bottom line is true in the previous replies, too...if she's most comfortable with a .22, she should carry a .22.
 
I used the wrong phrase - what I was trying to say : Will you be concern that your wife carrying only a .22 (you know, instead of a larger caliber)?
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Agreed - VERY bad choice of words. :D

Your wife should carry what she shoots best with - be it a Walther P22 or a Colt 1911 .45 ACP. ANY gun at your side is better than one on the nightstand. This is what she should carry:

The "best" gun is the one YOU like, not anyone else. It will be a compromise of:

1. Fit - It should fit in your hand like you were born with it there.
2. Reliability - It should go BANG about 99.8% of the time you pull the trigger.
3. Accuracy - In YOUR hand. It's how well YOU shoot it.
4. Concealability - It should be comfortable enough to wear and easy enough to conceal so you won't leave it laying on the dresser at home.
5. Cost - You don't want to scrimp on your "life protector" weapon, but you probably don't need a $1,000 Kimber, either.

Y'all go to a gun range and have her shoot whatever they'll rent. Borrow friends' guns and shoot them. Get her to handle a LOT of brands, models, and calibers. When she decides what she likes, buy it and get her to practice, practice, practice.

A .22 IS small, but nothing is smaller. :D
 
My pretty daughter is not yet old enough to legally carry a handgun. When she is, I'll be glad to buy her whatever she's comfortable carrying. Even a .22 is better than the pepper spray she's stuck with now.

I won't be surprised if she goes with a Beretta 9mm, since it's a service weapon, or a P22 because it's small. But with my luck she'll want a damn Lady Hawk like my wife's!
 
oh God...that wasn't want I meant.
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I'm reminded of the time I was visiting a friend in Vermont, and in the course of a conversation about the local scene, he said, "Well, people don't really commit crimes up here, they just get drunk and hit their wives."

You should've SEEN the look on his face after the words left his mouth and he realized what he'd just said. Priceless. I still lit into him for saying it, though. He should've thought before opening his mouth, yes?

:)
 
Actually, of course you have a point. Some women enjoy abusive relationships
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Ohhh no, I've opened up another can o'worms.:D

Seriously though, I've run across many ladies that just don't want to deal with decisions like that.

Many times I hear, "whatever you think is best" or "ok, I don't care".

It's not abusive. Some ladies just defer things like that to their men. Others don't, either/or. No need to get all defensive about it.:)

EDIT: I asked my friend if she felt ladies in general should be left to deal with gun selection etc. She said "Yes, sure...unless they don't know what they're doing, then the guy that knows should take over".
 
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Keep saying, "Shot placement...shot placement...shot placement..."

I lump all "sub-caliber" rounds — .38 Special out of a snub, .38 S&W, the various flavors of .32s, 9 X 18, .380, .25, .22 — in the same category. Think precise shot placement/head shots and multiple rounds...also forget the idea that the gun might be an intimidating factor (although I have seen even a little bitty gun work as such). I think too many of us manly men put too much faith in "magic bullets" because of what people like me say on television or in the magazines.

I've carried a Walther TPH .22 in low-risk environments...once on the beach in Key West, which got me fired from a gig writing a handgun column in a gun magazine...the editor said, "What kind of lunatic would carry a gun on a public beach?" My apparently inadequate response was, "A live one."

BTW, if I told my Sweetie to do anything, I suspect certain part of my anatomy would be hanging from the rearview mirror of her Mini...

Michael B
 
My friend died to a self inflicted .22LR wound. It took ONE shot... yes ONE... to take him out. What happened? Well he shot himself in the forehead between the eyes... the round had enough power to enter through the front but it did NOT have the power to come out... it bounced around in there effectively scrambling his brain. He didn't make it to the hospital not because it killed him instantly but because he bled out. He did have a history of mental issues and was on a nasty acid trip at the time.

It was a sad thing to see such a well liked guy die at 18 but it proved to me that a .22LR has sufficient power to be a "man stopper" when one round is put in the right spot... bullet size doesn't matter when it is inside your skull. The death may not be quick and clean but it still does the job.

Another friend's dad had his son shooting and his son ended up throwing a tantrum and shot his dad in the arm with a .22LR the wound was fairly significant and did quite a bit of damage to his arm between his elbow and shoulder... It would have been a LOT worse with a typical handgun caliber but the fact is it was still a pretty nasty wound. The kid doesn't deserve to have a gun again either... he had proper training but proved he wasn't mentally capable of using one... may not be the best 2 stories for the gun control nazis to read but it was 2 cases of a .22LR being rather deadly... we aren't talking air soft guns here... a bullet is a bullet... even in it's weakest form it still REALLY sucks to be shot.
 
.22 is more than enough, especially if she carries mace too. As to the picking of what your wife shoots. . . my girlfriend would probably carry if I asked her sincerely to, but she would never care enough to pick out her own gun, she would just say give me something, but since I don't think she actually has the mentality to shoot someone, I would feel much better that she only carries mace. She is not into guns, as many women (and men for that matter) aren't. So if she actually went to a gunshop, bought her own gun, and went and got her CCW, I would probably be the most surprised happiest guy alive.
 
This is why instead of "shopping with mommy" you take your daughters "shooting with daddy" while they are young. When they get older they will be more inclined to pick their own guns and use them like they should. My gf was always raised like that... she went shooting with her dad and spent a lot of time doing the "boy things" like outdoorsy stuff so she is actually excited to go to the range with me.
 
One time I was shot 19 times in the face with a .22 and I just wiped the sweat off my brow and said, "it will take at least a .50 BMG to MY GROIN to stop me...I read it on the intarwebs!"

;);););)




Getting shot by any caliber is not on my list of things to do...people get killed by air rifles.

I still get crap for carrying a 9mm by some gun store commandos who insist that is has to be .45 ACP or better or I'm better off not carrying. To which I always reply, "have you been shot by a 9mm?" and then when the inevitable negative response comes I just say, "I'll take my chances then."
 
My first post here! (though I recognize some names from THR).

chris in va said:
Seriously though, I've run across many ladies that just don't want to deal with decisions like that.

Many times I hear, "whatever you think is best" or "ok, I don't care".
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That's giving advice, not permission. Advice is often welcome, even if not always followed. Advising an inexperienced shooter of either sex is commendable.

A good husband might advise his wife go go with something larger. A wise husband will respect her choice.
 
I know the concept that having something is better then nothing-- but a .22? Is there even any .22lr that's powerful enough to stop a 200 pounds bay guy?
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Depending on where you do your research... approx. 80% of people survive being shot with a handgun. That inlcudes the .45 ACP. There was a BG shot 20 something times by a LEO and his .40 S&W. He died, but not until 4 minutes after the last shot. When I carry my .40 I usually don't carry more than 15 rounds. Of the remaining 20% of people shot with a handgun a lot of those are shot with .22 LR's. It's still a bullet. Hit the heart and they're going down.

Just the sight of the gun is enough to make most people stop. So statistically speaking your gun doesn't even have to be real (I still do NOT advise this).

Will you allow your wife to pack a .22 as her primary ccw?
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I'm very thankful that my wife carries. She has a .380, but if she wanted to cary a .22 that would be fine with me.

Bigger bullets do NOT mean less training is required!
 
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