azredhawk44
Moderator
Regarding 11 shots in 2 seconds...
I'm no great gunslinger by any stretch. I recently took a Brit friend out shooting as a neat American experience, and he asked me how quickly I could shoot. So, we timed it. I took 2 16rd magazines in my XD9, and holstered the gun. It took me 14 seconds to draw, fire 16 rounds, change mags and fire another 16 rounds. Target was 10 yards away, and all rounds hit the target. I pushed myself right up to my comfort envelope.
Allowing 1 second for draw/presentation and 2 seconds for mag change and target re-acquisition, that's 11 seconds for 32 rounds. 11 rounds is about 1/3 of 32, so the claim of 2 seconds for 11 rounds with no mag change and an already-presented firearm is quite feasible. According to my math, I could probably get 11 rounds off in about 3 seconds judging by my previous experience.
I'm not very fast, but every Tuesday in Mesa I see men who ARE that fast. Very common to see folks accomplish 8-10 hits along with a draw, and target shifts, in 4-5 seconds.
But...
I agree that the point of this thread is the collateral damage concerns, and the loss of innocent life from doing the "right" thing. Ammo and caliber are completely secondary to this discussion, and we all need to evaluate "just what exactly is WORTH getting into a shooting duel here?"
The McDonalds safe, that I don't own, isn't one of those things.
That's for sure.
I'm no great gunslinger by any stretch. I recently took a Brit friend out shooting as a neat American experience, and he asked me how quickly I could shoot. So, we timed it. I took 2 16rd magazines in my XD9, and holstered the gun. It took me 14 seconds to draw, fire 16 rounds, change mags and fire another 16 rounds. Target was 10 yards away, and all rounds hit the target. I pushed myself right up to my comfort envelope.
Allowing 1 second for draw/presentation and 2 seconds for mag change and target re-acquisition, that's 11 seconds for 32 rounds. 11 rounds is about 1/3 of 32, so the claim of 2 seconds for 11 rounds with no mag change and an already-presented firearm is quite feasible. According to my math, I could probably get 11 rounds off in about 3 seconds judging by my previous experience.
I'm not very fast, but every Tuesday in Mesa I see men who ARE that fast. Very common to see folks accomplish 8-10 hits along with a draw, and target shifts, in 4-5 seconds.
But...
I agree that the point of this thread is the collateral damage concerns, and the loss of innocent life from doing the "right" thing. Ammo and caliber are completely secondary to this discussion, and we all need to evaluate "just what exactly is WORTH getting into a shooting duel here?"
The McDonalds safe, that I don't own, isn't one of those things.
That's for sure.